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   From: Voter@Vote2016.com   
      
   Aborting a fetus in the first three months is not only 100% moral, but it is   
   immoral not to abort.  There is no brain in the fetus for the first three   
   months,   
   and no ghost either.  If you read people's stories of memories of being in the   
   womb, they have real memories of being babies alive in the womb.  These same   
   people yet have memories of reincarnation - of being a Ghost and then being in   
   the   
   womb for less than 9 months.  Of being in the womb probably no more than five   
   months at most.  Read their stories.  _IF_ there is no brain, and no ghost, in   
   the   
   fetus, then not aborting is making a decision to get pregnant.  While obviously   
   the day before the baby is born, it is just two people attached, but you have a   
   right to detach your body, vs. an ethical requirement to throw someone a rope.   
   Carrying a baby who eats your body for 6 months is more onerous than throwing   
   someone a rope.  It is perhaps closer to jumping into an icy cold river to save   
   someone.  Someone you don't want or know.  If you were on a 6 month trek   
   through   
   the wilderness, with only 2,000 calories per day to feed you, and you met a   
   starving person, would you starve _with_ them, eating 1,000 calories for the   
   rest   
   of your 6 month trek through the wilderness, to emerge skinny and weak, but   
   alive?   
   Would it be a crime not to feed them?  Carrying a baby is letting a baby eat   
   your   
   body.  What if the woman could just pull the fetus out of her?  Would that be a   
   crime? You weren't born Siamese twins.  Your body is not theirs.  If you went   
   through the Star Trek transporter and came out attached to someone, and they   
   were   
   using your kidney, and their kidney didn't make the transport, and there was 6   
   months to wait for a kidney, would you stay attached to this stranger for 6   
   months   
   to let them live?  What if you both had guns, and you were like, we're going   
   to go   
   get detached, and they were like, no, we're not, and you were like, if you kill   
   me, you'll die, but if I kill you, I'll live.  What if it was more than 6   
   months   
   to wait for a kidney, like 9 years?  What if you were in excruciating pain that   
   could only be relieved by separation, but they would die?  What if you could   
   just   
   pull yourself off of them, and they would die, and you would live?  Would it   
   be a   
   crime to do so?  What if the woman could just pull the fetus out of her?  What   
   if   
   they could be detached from you, and re-attached to someone else to live?    
   Would   
   those people be like paid surrogates, and does a fetus thus get free health   
   care,   
   to bring all babies to life?   
      
   What if aliens land and lay eggs, which crawl in our feet, or we ingest   
   accidentally through fruit, and 3 foot by 8 inch caterpillars gestate in our   
   stomachs, accidentally for over 3 years, until they finally crawl out our   
   mouths,   
   and eventually turn into beautiful harmonic, human-sized butterflies who teach   
   the   
   nations?   And these butterflies are more intelligent than humans, and wholly   
   benevolent and helpful.  What if this accidental insemination happens   
   frequently.   
      
   What if aliens land, and just generally infect everyone's legs with their   
   young.   
      
   You can't abort a rapist's insemination any more than you can kill a 30 year   
   old   
   product of rape, if you can't kill a normal fetus.  A rapist's insemination is   
   as   
   much a living person as a normal fetus is.  And yet you have a right to   
   separate   
   your body so far as I've suggested.   
      
   What if a Siamese twin kills?  Do they both go to prison?  Has this ever   
   happened?   
     Is the law not bunk, and is not self defense the solution?  Should we not be   
   letting the chips fall where they may, and doing away with the law, to replace   
   it   
   with an benevolent and helpful advocate which recognizes and promotes the   
   humanity   
   in all humankind?   
      
   _IF_ there is no brain, and no ghost, in the fetus, then not aborting is   
   making a   
   decision to get pregnant.  There's no person living in you for at least the   
   first   
   three months.  If you don't abort, it's just like you decided to get   
   pregnant.  If   
   a sperm and an egg were sitting next to each other in a petri dish, and then   
   the   
   sperm impregnated the egg, would you believe, that was a human with a brain   
   and a   
   ghost?  Do you believe that you came out of a zygote?  Are you a materialist,   
   atheist, deathist who believes only in the material world?  There is life after   
   death.  There is life before life.  The ghost enters the fetus at various   
   times in   
   its development.  This begs the question, could a baby be born without a ghost;   
   especially in Africa, where there are tons and tons of babies, and no one would   
   want to be born in Africa.  But I imagine it would be born stillborn.   
      
   Unplanned childbirth is the scourge of nations.  Unplanned childbirth is the   
   cause   
   of overpopulation.  There are too many people for the property.  There is not   
   enough capital for the labor.  Rather than a Holocaust as was caused by the   
   Great   
   Depression, the solution is to stop unplanned pregnancies.  The human race is   
   an   
   animal like any other, that can kill off its habitat and resultingly die en   
   masse.   
     Like a Kuala Bear group that needs to be culled, but the solution is to stop   
   unplanned pregnancy.   37% of American society is unplanned.  Babies born to   
   mother's who didn't plan them certainly face a life of likely greater poverty   
   and   
   hardship.  Drug abusers certainly don't practice abstinence if they are   
   reckless   
   enough to abuse drugs.  People using needles, and injecting Heroin, get   
   pregnant   
   at 19.  The last thing they need is a baby.  The first thing they need is an   
   abortion.  This is not theoretical.  This is solid fact.  Only 40% of all   
   unplanned pregnancies, or nearly 1 million are happily terminated in abortion.   
   Sadly, 60% of all unplanned pregnancies or 1.5 million, are not.  1.5 million   
   out   
   of 4 million babies born per year are unplanned.  This is 37%.  This is   
   outrageous.  This is certainly going to have a negative socio-economic effect   
   on   
   our so-called civilization.  Half the unplanned pregnancies and childbirths,   
   occurred in people who used 1 type of birth control, but were not responsible   
   enough to just use 2 or 3 types of birth control concurrently. The other half   
   occurred in people who used no protection.  A sexually active couple will be   
   pregnant in 10 years on the pill, in 5-6 years using only condoms, and in 1   
   year   
   using only the pull-out method.  Using two types of birth control is greatly   
      
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