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   Intelligent Party to All   
   COVID & Commerce - though it's ludicrous   
   03 May 20 12:09:24   
   
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   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   First of all, employee and consumer protections matter.   
      
   Regarding complaints about prohibition of commerce; and is regulation of   
   commerce   
   not to include *prohibition* of commerce, therefore....   
      
   1. Are consumers protected from sale, if they fully know and continue to be   
   warned   
   by advisement at the store entrance about COVID.   
   2. May the employees quit and come back at any time before or after COVID is   
   over   
   with no penalty.  And are they fully advised as to this right, and continue to   
   be   
   warned as to the dangers of working, at the office entrance.   
   3. Are people in receipt of $2,000-$4,000 per month, so they do not have to   
   work,   
   and are only working for extra money.  Not because they could otherwise die,   
   and   
   can thereby be exploited?!   
      
   4. Even if it was 100% allowed, would you really even have your office, store   
   or   
   restaurant open given the high risk.   
      
   It seems the issue really comes down to employee protections vs. prohibition of   
   commerce.  Prohibition of commerce does NOT seem warranted for consumer   
   protections given the easy solution of advisement - that is, product labeling,   
   advertisement, and marketing control.  Force advertisement of the restaurant as   
   assisted suicide for example, but this is ludicrous.  Yet that is what that   
   would   
   be.  Additionally forcing the restaurant to force consumers to wear masks while   
   inside, to protect both employees and other consumers.  Hardeeharharhar I   
   wonder   
   how they could eat.  Okay I guess that's prohibition, but technically not.    
   You're   
   just saying they have to wear the mask, not that they couldn't eat, okay I   
   guess   
   that's a deceitful argument.  Take-out food answers the issue there anyway.    
   Then   
   you could eat it on the beach... oooh except ... (our human rights are not   
   respected because of no distinction made between commerce and totalitarian   
   oppression).   
      
   Employee and Consumer protections matter!   
      
   Regulation of commerce for Consumers, might include:   
   Consumer Advisement in the form of Product Labeling, Advertisement and   
   Marketing   
   Control   
   Quality Control   
   Product Bundling   
   Location of Sale?   
      
   General principal of Employee labor law is the work not be unnecessarily   
   dangerous, injurious, painful, or unsanitary (poisonous).  COVID employment is   
   easily all four.  Employing people to commit unnecessary self-harm.  Thus only   
   necessary activities, such as fire fighting, are presently allowed.   
      
      
   Consider the following black letter advice:   
      
   "The Congress shall have Power To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and   
   among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes." - U.S. Constitution,   
   Article I, Section 8, Clause 3   
      
   "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or   
   prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or   
   of   
   the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition   
   the   
   Government for a redress of grievances." - U.S. Constitution, 1st Amendment   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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