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|    82,500 New Cases 7/13/2020, 100,000 New     |
|    13 Jul 20 11:57:17    |
      XPost: alt.politics.usa.congress, alt.atheism, talk.politics.misc       XPost: alt.politics.usa.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republicans       From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com              50% Increase in New Cases, every 10 days.              My unscientific, ad hoc (educated) guesstimation...                     The 150,000 could come much faster. This is up up and away.              We know stay-at-home works.              2,000 new cases per day in California before stay-at-home abandoned before       5/30.       8,000 new cases per day in California now, in 6 weeks.              We cannot continue stay-at-home without government money.              Moving around = social distancing.              It's sitting in one place, especially indoors, that gets someone infected with       COVID.              Work, commercial parties, restaurants, barber shops, nail salons, public       transportation.              Unless you "catch cold." Even at the gym, you MOVE AROUND while in it,       compared       to sitting at one place in a restaurant, at work, or at a party, breathing the       virus in and out, in and out, in and out, in and out.              Employee protections matter. You can't employee people to commit self-harm.       Commerce is exploitation, but instead of prohibition, we proceed as follows.              We deserve a forbearance on all old rent and debt, and $1,250 per month for       every       man woman and child. Or else we have to go socialist, figuring there will       never       be a vaccine, nor an eradication of COVID, and have no forbearance, and       default on       the properties now, and have $2,500 per month for every man woman and child,       you       can finance $200,000 in home equity, with 100% LTV, and no work documentation       required for such loans, $1,250 per month. Eradication would require 3-4       months       of no new cases per day. There has been no vaccine for HIV in 40 years, yet       they       have vaccines for the new flu frequently, how does the flu compare to       coronavirus,       study that.       If there is never any vaccine nor eradication, we are loosing time waiting for       either, and how long should we wait before going in a new direction? 1.5       years?       That is 1.5 years lost. Should we not move in a new direction immediately? So       $2,500 per month for every man, woman, and child. All employee protections are       based on extreme discouragements, and advisements, NO GESTAPO LAWS, but work       from       home if you can. Make your own decisions. Coronavirus is never going away.        ALL       EMPLOYEE ADVISEMENTS. ALL CONSUMER ADVISEMENTS, likewise. Advertising,       Marketing,       Product Labeling, Advisement.              Consumer protections matter.              The minimum wage will be $2,500 per month after taxes additionally, and after       you       make a certain amount $60,000-$200,000+, you pay the $30,000 free money back.       More       than a flat tax, a flat amount. Also at a certain point we have a 75% Federal       sales tax, to encourage everyone to hold the capital. 70% wouldn't do that.        But       80% would make them maybe not care enough about their capital. The $2,500 will       vary across the nation, by the County, and be 65% per capita GDP of the county,       both for the free money from the government, and for the minimum wage.              The $1,250 or $2,500 shall be sent in T-Bills or Bonds. If the bonds aren't       converted cash, there is no effect. So, for people without bank accounts, we       will       have to send registered bonds. The registered bonds will be transferable to       book-entry bonds, or cash. The Fed will guarantee to buy all the free money       bonds       for sure, and if the Fed wants to sell bonds, it will sell other bonds.              As to the forbearance, you know, if the tenant can't pay the property owner,       because they don't have revenues due to COVID; a movie theater, a department       store, are not going to be rented out to another tenant, who are not going to       earn       revenues either. A restaurant or nightclub, and the property owner won't be       able       to rent and pay their mortgage to the bank. The bank could be left holding       possibly worthless property anyway, or just land. Also, other companies, such       as       airlines, you know, the idea was, an economic pause, COVID might be eradicated       or       vaccinated against, and then those airlines could start right back up, and not       have to build the company from scratch, and other such companies with debt       payments can go bankrupt, and fold, escalating, like dominoes, more       unemployment,       less revenues. Plus, just general unemployment, people could have a stay on       their       mortgages, and on their rent or else renters be not able to pay rent at all, or       spend down their savings, and then not be able to pay rent, while passive       incomes       are earned by landlords and equity owners who don't do anything, as rental       payments and interest on debt, and the banks earn revenues and may pay       dividends.       But I guess if we go with this $2,500 plan, then there is $1,250 to pay rent;       and       you should get out of that rent as soon as possible, and buy $200,000, and the       rental properties will be converted into for sale housing or hotels. And you       can       get a job and earn more, and buy a nicer home.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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