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   Intelligent Party to All   
   Selling Contagious Poison, As Food And R   
   26 Jun 21 12:23:53   
   
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   XPost: alt.politics.usa.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republicans   
   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   Selling Contagious Poison, As Food And Recreation, Is My Big Question To   
   America   
      
   Consumers are not even warned?   
      
   Employees are not even informed the job is to get COVID?   
      
   Waiters don't produce equity.  After the service is over there is nothing to   
   show   
   for it.   
      
   Rather than "Non-Essential Services," "Commercial Entertainment Services"   
   should   
   be eliminated.   
      
   People TOIL for others entertainment, and amusement?  Work is CREATED this way?   
      
   We let people take this big risk for entertainment which doesn't create any   
   equity?   
      
   At least people in a movie, create a movie we have for 100 years.   
      
   "Commercial Entertainment Services:" I am talking about Broadway, Circuses,   
   Vegas   
   Shows, The Opera, Waiters, and Whores.   
      
   If there is a substitute product, such as take-out for dine-in, then total   
   prohibition may be alright.  We should endeavor to not create an illegal   
   market,   
   but whores don't produce anything.  Sex and property are the mountain between   
   us.   
   So the lack of a substitute product seems to go to just whores, and I'm not   
   saying   
   we should or shouldn't have them, but I don't agree with punishment.   
      
   Health Clubs are not even close to the same basket as "Commercial Entertainment   
   Services."   
      
   Then there's haircuts, pedicures, and gardeners.  The work they provide doesn't   
   last for long.   
      
   I think I may never hire another waiter in my life.  That's not the sort of   
   job I   
   like to provide.  I understand the Restaurant industry is huge.  It is also   
   apparently a huge waste.  Do you want to finance more kitchens for quality   
   take-out, or more Restaurants?  We can only spend so much, and we don't have   
   property at the bottom.  Waiters, rather, should be producing equity, or going   
   to   
   school for free.  Waiters could be allowed to spend the same without working,   
   and   
   it wouldn't do anything at all to the economy, people would just not 'enjoy'   
   waiters.   
      
   The governments would pull poisonous lettuce off the shelves, but there would   
   be   
   other lettuce for sale.  They pulled Tryptophan, which killed several people,   
   off   
   the shelves for ten years, without a substitute product; do you think that was   
   wrong?  COVID is not just poisonous food for sale at Restaurants; COVID is   
   contagious poisonous food for sale at restaurants.  The government prohibits   
   poisonous drugs to be sold as recreational party-fun.  COVID is not just poison   
   sold as recreational party-fun; COVID is contagious poison sold as recreational   
   party-fun.   
      
   Selling contagious poison, as food and recreation, is my big question to   
   America.   
   And taking such a big health risk, for entertainment, which doesn't produce any   
   equity.  But actually my question is why have such "Commercial Entertainment   
   Services" work, allowed in the first place.  That's what we want to trade?  So   
   the   
   waiter can go out to eat, if there ever is a post-COVID?  It's not going to   
   make   
   us rich.  Instead he could produce, and buy, a nicer dinning room table. Rather   
   than endless toil.   
   (And porn-stars, unlike whores, yet like a table producer, and like a movie   
   star,   
   produce a product.  Still, the general principle of employment law, is the work   
   ought not be unnecessarily dangerous, unnecessarily unsanitary, unnecessarily   
   injurious, nor unnecessarily painful.  So, as to professional sports, they only   
   sort of produce a product.  I doubt they'll start playing flag football in   
   place   
   of NFL, or get rid of boxing anytime soon, but the purpose of Ultimate Fighting   
   was supposedly to figure out which martial art works best; and have they   
   figured   
   that out?, and do we really need Ultimate Fighting?  They can keep the   
   bull-fighting in Mexico, or else we'll have dog fighting and cock fighting and   
   other such stuff soon here.  (Animal cruelty, is not a legal persuasion.)  And   
   yet   
   these Sports barely produce a product, too; like you watch reruns of the NFL or   
   Olympics much.  If you want to play High School for free, or intramural, that's   
   another matter.  But the two issues are: employed to commit self-harm; and,   
   working for other's amusement producing no equity.)   
      
   Making salaries more equitable, could be another way to address the matter.    
   Based   
   on the above, you couldn't ever have a servant for a Birthday party, nor a   
   Wedding.  Yet still, do you need one?  But having to pay more equitably, that   
   is   
   every person more equal consumption, for an hour worked; could mean not   
   frivolously employing a waiter, vs. not paying an NFL star to risk his life.   
   While   
   we all need to hold equity and savings, we could all consume the same, but some   
   person owns the Empire State Building.   
   But even with slave labor, Waiters don't build the economy, and a lot of what   
   is   
   going on right now *is* about building the economy.  At least slaves would   
   build   
   real equity.  Waiters will not.  So while one way of solving the problem could   
   be   
   paying more equal consumption per hour worked, thus we would not frivolously   
   employ, nor compel risk taking, for pay, nor high pay, we do need, at the same   
   time, to hold capital savings in private hands.   
      
   All the above said; working to commit the self harm of risking COVID, and   
   building   
   no equity, while doing so, both at the same time, is really the big issue here.   
   There's no argument in my mind that it's ludicrous.  Even so, people need jobs,   
   but it would be/should be, COVID that put them out of a job, but I guess people   
   merely take risks for money, which is serious, when they have no other option.   
      
   It's more the fruits of our Capital, that produces, than our labor.  Maybe   
   ex-waiters, and the like, should just have free cash to spend, to a degree.    
   With   
   still more incentive than that, to earn, as we need to finance Capital and   
   Intellectual Capital - School, to make the Country yet wealthier.... Perhaps   
   money   
   if you're trying to get to School, or are going to school.  The Macro-Economy   
   is   
   at stake here.   
      
   A movie theater can be run by a few people, serving hundreds.  And let's not   
   confuse Commercial Entertainment *Services*, with Commercial Entertainment   
   *Capital*.  We do want Big Screen T.V.'s right?  For if we went to prohibiting   
   Capital, it could be anything... from Children's Toys to Christmas Trees.   
   Anything   
   that you enjoy.  Still, jewelry made out of Gold is a colossal waste. People   
   die   
   mining Gold all day.  Costume jewelry may be a sufficient substitute product.    
   (In   
   Russia, the waste of the likes of the Faberge Eggs - extremely expensive art -   
   contributed the Russian civil war, and over half a century of Marxist   
   Communism,   
   which caused the Cold War.)   
      
      
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