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      XPost: alt.politics.usa.congress, alt.atheism, talk.politics.misc       XPost: alt.politics.usa.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republicans       From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com              On 6/26/2021 12:23 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:       > Selling Contagious Poison, As Food And Recreation, Is My Big Question To       America       >       > Consumers are not even warned?       >       > Employees are not even informed the job is to get COVID?       >       > Waiters don't produce equity. After the service is over there is nothing to       show       > for it.       >       > Rather than "Non-Essential Services," "Commercial Entertainment Services"       should       > be eliminated.       >       > People TOIL for others entertainment, and amusement? Work is CREATED this       way?       >       > We let people take this big risk for entertainment which doesn't create any       equity?       >       > At least people in a movie, create a movie we have for 100 years.       >       > "Commercial Entertainment Services:" I am talking about Broadway, Circuses,       Vegas       > Shows, The Opera, Waiters, and Whores.       >       > If there is a substitute product, such as take-out for dine-in, then total       > prohibition may be alright. We should endeavor to not create an illegal       market,       > but whores don't produce anything. Sex and property are the mountain       between us.       > So the lack of a substitute product seems to go to just whores, and I'm not       saying       > we should or shouldn't have them, but I don't agree with punishment.       >       > Health Clubs are not even close to the same basket as "Commercial       Entertainment       > Services."       >       > Then there's haircuts, pedicures, and gardeners. The work they provide       doesn't       > last for long.       >       > I think I may never hire another waiter in my life. That's not the sort of       job I       > like to provide. I understand the Restaurant industry is huge. It is also       > apparently a huge waste. Do you want to finance more kitchens for quality       > take-out, or more Restaurants? We can only spend so much, and we don't have       > property at the bottom. Waiters, rather, should be producing equity, or       going to       > school for free. Waiters could be allowed to spend the same without       working, and       > it wouldn't do anything at all to the economy, people would just not 'enjoy'       waiters.       >       > The governments would pull poisonous lettuce off the shelves, but there       would be       > other lettuce for sale. They pulled Tryptophan, which killed several       people, off       > the shelves for ten years, without a substitute product; do you think that       was       > wrong? COVID is not just poisonous food for sale at Restaurants; COVID is       > contagious poisonous food for sale at restaurants. The government prohibits       > poisonous drugs to be sold as recreational party-fun. COVID is not just       poison       > sold as recreational party-fun; COVID is contagious poison sold as       recreational       > party-fun.       >       > Selling contagious poison, as food and recreation, is my big question to       America.       > And taking such a big health risk, for entertainment, which doesn't produce       any       > equity. But actually my question is why have such "Commercial Entertainment       > Services" work, allowed in the first place. That's what we want to trade?        So the       > waiter can go out to eat, if there ever is a post-COVID? It's not going to       make       > us rich. Instead he could produce, and buy, a nicer dinning room table.       Rather       > than endless toil.       > (And porn-stars, unlike whores, yet like a table producer, and like a movie       star,       > produce a product. Still, the general principle of employment law, is the       work       > ought not be unnecessarily dangerous, unnecessarily unsanitary, unnecessarily       > injurious, nor unnecessarily painful. So, as to professional sports, they       only       > sort of produce a product. I doubt they'll start playing flag football in       place       > of NFL, or get rid of boxing anytime soon, but the purpose of Ultimate       Fighting       > was supposedly to figure out which martial art works best; and have they       figured       > that out?, and do we really need Ultimate Fighting? They can keep the       > bull-fighting in Mexico, or else we'll have dog fighting and cock fighting       and       > other such stuff soon here. (Animal cruelty, is not a legal persuasion.)        And yet       > these Sports barely produce a product, too; like you watch reruns of the NFL       or       > Olympics much. If you want to play High School for free, or intramural,       that's       > another matter. But the two issues are: employed to commit self-harm; and,       > working for other's amusement producing no equity.)       >       > Making salaries more equitable, could be another way to address the matter.        Based       > on the above, you couldn't ever have a servant for a Birthday party, nor a       > Wedding. Yet still, do you need one? But having to pay more equitably,       that is       > every person more equal consumption, for an hour worked; could mean not       > frivolously employing a waiter, vs. not paying an NFL star to risk his life.       While       > we all need to hold equity and savings, we could all consume the same, but       some       > person owns the Empire State Building.       > But even with slave labor, Waiters don't build the economy, and a lot of       what is       > going on right now *is* about building the economy. At least slaves would       build       > real equity. Waiters will not. So while one way of solving the problem       could be       > paying more equal consumption per hour worked, thus we would not frivolously       > employ, nor compel risk taking, for pay, nor high pay, we do need, at the       same       > time, to hold capital savings in private hands.       >       > All the above said; working to commit the self harm of risking COVID, and       building       > no equity, while doing so, both at the same time, is really the big issue       here.       > There's no argument in my mind that it's ludicrous. Even so, people need       jobs,       > but it would be/should be, COVID that put them out of a job, but I guess       people       > merely take risks for money, which is serious, when they have no other       option.       >       > It's more the fruits of our Capital, that produces, than our labor. Maybe       > ex-waiters, and the like, should just have free cash to spend, to a degree.        With       > still more incentive than that, to earn, as we need to finance Capital and       > Intellectual Capital - School, to make the Country yet wealthier.... Perhaps       money       > if you're trying to get to School, or are going to school. The       Macro-Economy is       > at stake here.       >       > A movie theater can be run by a few people, serving hundreds. And let's not       > confuse Commercial Entertainment *Services*, with Commercial Entertainment       > *Capital*. We do want Big Screen T.V.'s right? For if we went to       prohibiting       > Capital, it could be anything... from Children's Toys to Christmas Trees.       Anything       > that you enjoy. Still, jewelry made out of Gold is a colossal waste. People       die              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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