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   From: nomail@invalid.invalid   
      
   In article ,   
   twang@the.noodle says...   
   >   
   > Michael McLean wrote:   
   > > On 11/04/2023 8:23 am, El Kabong wrote:   
   > > > Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>> Michael McLean wrote:   
   > > >>>> On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote:   
   > > >>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   sylvia@email.invalid says...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something.  No thing can   
   create itself.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     It needs a cause.  Thus eternal God or nothing would   
   be here. No thing   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into   
   "being."   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He created it?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> eternal universe.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> Twist it around as usual.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>> You said it, not me.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>    If it was created it cannot be eternal.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>> Of course it can.  Any omnipotent god can create   
   > > >>>>>>>>> something that lasts forever.  If he can't, he's not   
   > > >>>>>>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school.   
   > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>> If it was created it had a beginning.   
   > > >>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>> So?   
   > > >>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>> Spnak!   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>> You are running away again, skeetzoid.   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>> Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-).   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> I see how both of you do a lot of talking.   
   > > >>> It's your way of diving into the weeds when   
   > > >>> you can't hold your own.   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god?   
   > > >>>   
   > > >> If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that?   
   > > >   
   > > > Nope.  Try again.   
   > >   
   > > Moron fool atheist!   
   >   
   > Nope.  Try again.   
      
   So far everyone but you has it right.   
      
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