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   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Intelligent Party wrote:   
   > Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine and sold out of sight on   
   > demand, at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.   
      
   i kinda agree... i think one of the scandinavian countries tried   
   that, right? they legalized drugs and the rate of overdose and   
   drug use reduced?   
      
      
   > There would be no Opioid crisis if Codeine were sold as it was,   
   > at Rite Aid.  No one would use any opiate more potent than   
   > Codeine, today, which your body turns into Morphine.  Codeine is   
   > already as bad for you as liquor, which is the devil's drug.  No   
   > one would use Morphine, Oxycontin, Heroin, or Fentanyl, which are   
   > all more potent, than Codeine, in order.  No alcoholic, today,   
   > drinks 75%-99% alcohol, even though it is widely available and   
   > stocked at any liquor store.  If one outlawed alcohol today, 99%   
   > alcohol is almost ALL that would be for sale, and alcoholics   
   > would be using only 99%.  This is why there's an Opoid Pandemic.   
   > No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today,   
   > which your body turns into Morphine.   
      
      
   idk, codeine tolerance is gained in a week or so?? then you have   
   more and more codeine until even that is not good enough? so you   
   move up the ladder.   
      
      
   > All prohibition is wrongful condemnation.  Abortion.  Guns.   
   > Sexuality. Drugs.  Use of the Public Lands.  All prohibition is   
   > akin to persecuting witchcraft.  All prohibition is witch   
   > killing.  All prohibition is persecution of a minority interest,   
   > which is genocide.  All prohibition is wrongful contempt.  All   
   > prohibition is hate crime.  All prohibition is prison.   
   > Politicians practicing prohibition, are broken arrows, at war on   
   > the American people.  The war on drugs, is war on the people, and   
   > treason.  It doesn't matter how many votes, the politicians get.   
   > America is for ALL people, however disparate their interests   
   > might be. Judging people who are different than you, is prejudice.   
   >   
      
   i dont agree with prohibition either, all drugs should be legalized.   
      
      
   > This means all drugs, to all ages on demand, without   
   > prescription.  For government imposed age discrimination is   
   > crime.  With more labeling information, and recommendations how   
   > to use/not use, warnings, degree/level danger of the drug clearly   
   > specified.  People who can buy, can read.   
      
      
   age restriction is a must, now what age is best to restrict   
   access? that is another matter.   
      
      
   > Also, people need to be informed, to use the less potent drugs.   
   > They're not intelligent without greater information.  You don't   
   > want to inhale nor inject potent drugs.  The Heroin, Crack,   
   > Crystal Meth, etc. should point people to the less potent   
   > varieties: Codeine, Cocaine, Speed, respectively.  Identifying,   
   > and describing, the potency differences. However, this can all   
   > become conventional wisdom, and easily understood by everyone, as   
   > 151 RUM is.  151 RUM DOES say it's 75% alcohol on the bottle.  No   
   > Heroin or Crack dealer ever said CRAP!  ...they just want to sell   
   > you something.   
      
      
   drugs are a different beast than alcohol. i dont think the same   
   logic applies. but both take you to the same place, fucked up hell.   
      
      
   >   
   > We have a nation of 165 million alcohol users, and of those, 25   
   > million alcohol ABUSERS (who drink more than 10 drinks per day).   
   > We don't want to market drugs as recreation like alcohol.   
   > Furthermore, anyone using liquor, or any other potent drug, more   
   > than two days per week, is going to become an alcoholic/addict   
   > and end up in AA/NA.  For every day you use a drug, don't use it   
   > for three.  The label should say as much.  Most sane partiers   
   > party twice per month, while twice per week is merely the max on   
   > the same drug.  If you use more, as a chronic user, quit for two   
   > months, right now, to prove you're in control, and then go back   
   > to, "for every day you use, don't use for three," only if you   
   > must.  Even better, if you do drink, limit yourself to no more   
   > than two drinks, and don't get trashed.  You will have a better   
   > time.  Make 2x2 your max.  Even the high never gets better than   
   > the first drink.  You don't want to inject, nor inhale, potent   
   > drugs, _at all_.  Drugs use up all your good feelings at once, or   
   > numb your bad feelings.  Doing alcohol or drugs, is like riding   
   > roller coasters, and who rides roller coasters more than a few   
   > times per year - the marginal benefit diminishes after the first   
   > few times, period.  Drugs are a social, and a mental impediment,   
   > and don't help you "get the girl/guy."  Drunk people are socially   
   > repulsive.  Try drinking water when you socialize, and get a good   
   > night's sleep.  All this, and it is 100% your right to drink and   
   > be drunk in public at all ages.  70% of college students drink at   
   > age 18, proving it is legal, and the government is a crime.   
   > Government imposed age discrimination is a crime, and we do not   
   > accept erroneous laws.   
   >   
   >   
   > Boneheads merely said "put cigarettes behind the counter," so you   
   > have to ask for them.  But they put them behind the checkout   
   > counter, and now they exist as an impulse item.  I'm saying, put   
   > them out of sight, no one cares if you have to ask for them, it   
   > doesn't temper anything, it's just slightly more annoying.  It   
   > should be, behind a CURTAIN, or through a separate entrance.  I   
   > don't smoke cigarettes.  Put more warnings on them, it's crime to   
   > sell them as a recreational item, as it's crime to sell snake oil   
   > as a cure for cancer.  You can't lie about what you're selling.   
   > They're just not fit for human consumption. However, if you   
   > choose to use them for human consumption, it is better to do so   
   > in this manner...   
   > _The label should say so much as that_.  Even so, you have a   
   > RIGHT to smoke tobacco in public all day (if you're not blowing   
   > it in someone's face, sitting in the same place), and we take   
   > offense at all these prohibitions of our lawful use of our public   
   > property and liberty, and you likewise have a right to huff glue,   
   > as it's your body, your glue, your right to huff it, even if   
   > you're stupid if you do so.  You're not guilty by doctrine.  But   
   > people persecuting you by doctrine _are_ guilty by fact, so far   
   > as right and wrong and guilt go.  Believing in guilt is not   
      
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