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   >> Minnich got tenure and became Professors at their respective   
   >> universities.  Both fully understand what science actually is, and   
   >> that is why their testimony during the Dover creationist fiasco was so   
   >> dishonest.   
   >   
   > That is the point I was trying to make, although perhaps I did not   
   > express it well.   
   >   
   >  > They both decided to prevaricate as much as the thought that > they   
   > could get away with.  They both fully understood that there was not   
   >> any ID science worth teaching in the public schools, but they tried to   
   >> lie about it, and deny that they understood why the bait and switch   
   >> had been going down 100% of the time for the previous 3 years.  They   
   >> had been in full support of using ID solely as bait for the previous 3   
   >> years.  Wells claimed that Minnich was there when the decision to   
   >> start running the bait and switch was made.  Sternberg may have had a   
   >> career in science, but he flushed it down the toilet in order to   
   >> dishonestly support the ID scam.  The ID perps have been paying him a   
   >> salary since 2007 as compensation for what he did for them, but his   
   >> science output dropped to zero after joining the ID scam unit of the   
   >> Discovery Institute.  Sternberg is a sad case.  He could not use his   
   >> expertise to support the dishonest ID scam, so he spent about the next   
   >> decade working on whale fossil gap denial.  Behe destroyed that effort   
   >> by claiming that whale evolution was just the type of evolution   
   >> expected to be due to natural selection.  It had obviously occurred by   
   >> natural means, but it was a bad type of evolution that Behe's designer   
   >> would have done differently.  A decade of bogus effort down the   
   >> tubes.  Sternberg has had to work up some other angle since then.   
   >> According to a recent article Sternberg is exploring "information   
   >> beyond the genome".  What is really sad is that Sternberg was a   
   >> taxonomist, and his work had likely fully supported biological   
   >> evolution before he quit science in order to sell ID as bait.   
   >>   
   >> https://evolutionnews.org/2025/03/richard-sternberg-on-the-   
   >> information- beyond-the-genome/   
   >   
   > I don't think we substantially disagree on any of this. If I came off as   
   > arguing with you, my sincere apologies.   
   >   
      
   I do not view it as arguing, just discussing the topic.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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