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   >>>>>>>>> It is what some of them are already doing.  Some have given up on the   
   >>>>>>>>> science denial, but some are still looking for what they need to fit   
   >>>>>>>>> their god into what has happened in nature.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> If they had given up on the science denial that Saint Ausgustine   
   warned   
   >>>>>>>>> Christians about, it would not matter how biological evolution fit   
   into   
   >>>>>>>>> their literal interpretation of the Bible.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Funny how you can't give even one specific example of such denial.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Some of them   
   >>>>>>>>>>> likely have deistic notions like Denton, and do not require any   
   designer   
   >>>>>>>>>>> interference with evolution, but some of them are tweekers like   
   Behe,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> and still remain under Saint Augustine's admonishment.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> More conjecture on your part. Unless of course you can provide   
   >>>>>>>>>> specific examples.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> They admit to it on their web site.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Where on their web site do they admit it?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Some of them are still tweekers   
   >>>>>>>>> like Behe, and would be the same type of science denier as Behe is.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yet again, you can't give a single specific example.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> In order to abide by Saint Augustine's admonishment they wouldn't   
   need to   
   >>>>>>>>> limit biological evolution due to their Biblical beliefs.  They claim   
   >>>>>>>>> that their god made humans in his own image using biological   
   evolution..   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You do understand that there is a theological debate about what "in   
   his   
   >>>>>>>>> image" means, right?  So what literal belief are they supporting and   
   >>>>>>>>> should they even be trying to support any of the interpretations?    
   Which   
   >>>>>>>>> Biblical beliefs are they willing to falsify using science?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The reason you can't give any specific examples is that you are   
   >>>>>>>> presenting their case upside down. They are not trying to *force* any   
   >>>>>>>> science into anything; to the extent that they are *forcing* anything,   
   >>>>>>>> they are forcing their traditional Bible interpretation into   
   >>>>>>>> accommodating what science tells us.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> St Augustine would undoubtedly have heartily endorsed what they are   
   >>>>>>>> doing.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> These creationists are claiming that some of the existing science   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>>> consistent with their Biblical interpretation, but it is not   
   consistent   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with what other creationists believe.  If we rewrote the Bible   
   today   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with our current understanding of cosmology we would still be wrong   
   >>>>>>>>>>> about some things, and they would have to be rewritten at some   
   later   
   >>>>>>>>>>> date.  Saint Augustine's admonishment makes it unnecessary to   
   rewrite or   
   >>>>>>>>>>> reinterpret the Bible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
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