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   >>>>>>> Funny how you can't give even one specific example of such denial.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Some of them   
   >>>>>>>>>> likely have deistic notions like Denton, and do not require any   
   designer   
   >>>>>>>>>> interference with evolution, but some of them are tweekers like   
   Behe,   
   >>>>>>>>>> and still remain under Saint Augustine's admonishment.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> More conjecture on your part. Unless of course you can provide   
   >>>>>>>>> specific examples.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> They admit to it on their web site.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Where on their web site do they admit it?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Some of them are still tweekers   
   >>>>>>>> like Behe, and would be the same type of science denier as Behe is.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yet again, you can't give a single specific example.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> In order to abide by Saint Augustine's admonishment they wouldn't   
   need to   
   >>>>>>>> limit biological evolution due to their Biblical beliefs.  They claim   
   >>>>>>>> that their god made humans in his own image using biological   
   evolution..   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You do understand that there is a theological debate about what "in   
   his   
   >>>>>>>> image" means, right?  So what literal belief are they supporting and   
   >>>>>>>> should they even be trying to support any of the interpretations?    
   Which   
   >>>>>>>> Biblical beliefs are they willing to falsify using science?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The reason you can't give any specific examples is that you are   
   >>>>>>> presenting their case upside down. They are not trying to *force* any   
   >>>>>>> science into anything; to the extent that they are *forcing* anything,   
   >>>>>>> they are forcing their traditional Bible interpretation into   
   >>>>>>> accommodating what science tells us.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> St Augustine would undoubtedly have heartily endorsed what they are   
   >>>>>>> doing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> These creationists are claiming that some of the existing science is   
   >>>>>>>>>> consistent with their Biblical interpretation, but it is not   
   consistent   
   >>>>>>>>>> with what other creationists believe.  If we rewrote the Bible today   
   >>>>>>>>>> with our current understanding of cosmology we would still be wrong   
   >>>>>>>>>> about some things, and they would have to be rewritten at some later   
   >>>>>>>>>> date.  Saint Augustine's admonishment makes it unnecessary to   
   rewrite or   
   >>>>>>>>>> reinterpret the Bible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>   
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