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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interference with evolution, but some of them are tweekers like   
   Behe,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and still remain under Saint Augustine's admonishment.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> More conjecture on your part. Unless of course you can provide   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> specific examples.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> They admit to it on their web site.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Where on their web site do they admit it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them are still tweekers   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> like Behe, and would be the same type of science denier as Behe   
   is.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Yet again, you can't give a single specific example.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> In order to abide by Saint Augustine's admonishment they wouldn't   
   need to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> limit biological evolution due to their Biblical beliefs.  They   
   claim   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> that their god made humans in his own image using biological   
   evolution..   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You do understand that there is a theological debate about what   
   "in his   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> image" means, right?  So what literal belief are they supporting   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> should they even be trying to support any of the in   
   erpretations?  Which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical beliefs are they willing to falsify using science?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The reason you can't give any specific examples is that you are   
   >>>>>>>>>>> presenting their case upside down. They are not trying to *force*   
   any   
   >>>>>>>>>>> science into anything; to the extent that they are *forcing*   
   anything,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> they are forcing their traditional Bible interpretation into   
   >>>>>>>>>>> accommodating what science tells us.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> St Augustine would undoubtedly have heartily endorsed what they are   
   >>>>>>>>>>> doing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> These creationists are claiming that some of the existing   
   science is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent with their Biblical interpretation, but it is not   
   consistent   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what other creationists believe.  If we rewrote the Bible   
   today   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with our current understanding of cosmology we would still be   
   wrong   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about some things, and they would have to be rewritten at some   
   later   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> date.  Saint Augustine's admonishment makes it unnecessary to   
   rewrite or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinterpret the Bible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>   
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