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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just the next stage of science denial that some of   
   them will use   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their acceptance of some of the science to cover up.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is pure conjecture on your part.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is what some of them are already doing.  Some have given up   
   on the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> science denial, but some are still looking for what they need to   
   fit   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> their god into what has happened in nature.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> If they had given up on the science denial that Saint Ausgustine   
   warned   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christians about, it would not matter how biological evolution   
   fit into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> their literal interpretation of the Bible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you can't give even one specific example of such denial.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely have deistic notions like Denton, and do not require   
   any designer   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interference with evolution, but some of them are tweekers   
   like Behe,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and still remain under Saint Augustine's admonishment.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> More conjecture on your part. Unless of course you can provide   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific examples.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> They admit to it on their web site.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Where on their web site do they admit it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them are still tweekers   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> like Behe, and would be the same type of science denier as Behe   
   is.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yet again, you can't give a single specific example.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to abide by Saint Augustine's admonishment they   
   wouldn't need to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> limit biological evolution due to their Biblical beliefs.  They   
   claim   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> that their god made humans in his own image using biological   
   evolution..   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You do understand that there is a theological debate about what   
   "in his   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> image" means, right?  So what literal belief are they supporting   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> should they even be trying to support any of the i   
   terpretations?  Which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical beliefs are they willing to falsify using science?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> The reason you can't give any specific examples is that you are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> presenting their case upside down. They are not trying to *force*   
   any   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> science into anything; to the extent that they are *forcing*   
   anything,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> they are forcing their traditional Bible interpretation into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> accommodating what science tells us.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> St Augustine would undoubtedly have heartily endorsed what they   
   are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> doing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These creationists are claiming that some of the existing   
   science is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent with their Biblical interpretation, but it is not   
   consistent   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what other creationists believe.  If we rewrote the Bible   
   today   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with our current understanding of cosmology we would still be   
   wrong   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about some things, and they would have to be rewritten at some   
   later   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date.  Saint Augustine's admonishment makes it unnecessary to   
   rewrite or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinterpret the Bible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
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