From: martinharran@gmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:31:30 -0500, DB Cates    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 2025-03-17 8:31 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 08:42:49 -0500, RonO    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >[giant snip]   
      
   Thank you for that. I had to stop snipping replies to Ron because if   
   you snip anything at all, he claims you were running from his   
   arguments and reposts the same stuff so you end up with a post 2 or 3   
   times longer than it needs to be :(   
      
   >>>   
   >>> QUOTE:   
   >>> We believe that God acts purposefully in creation, just as he does in   
   >>> our lives, and that he continues to actively uphold and sustain creation.   
   >>> END QUOTE:   
   >>   
   >> And again, nothing there about God tweaking life the way Behe claims.   
   >>   [another giant snip]   
   >   
   >Out of curiosity, what do you think the phrase "he continues to actively   
   >uphold and sustain creation." mean? I mean, in particular "continues"   
   >and "actively".   
      
   I see this as a background thing, not a direct process. I have 5   
   grown-up children, all with children of their own. I continue to   
   actively uphold and sustain them in whatever way they need but I do   
   not *interfere* in their lives. If, for example, they make decisions   
   that I don't agree with, I *might* offer an opinion if I think it will   
   be welcome but the decision is entirely theirs and I fully accept and   
   support whatever they do decide. The help and support I (and my wife)   
   give them is on request, not pushed on them, though they know it is   
   available when needed, and is given unconditionally.   
      
   That's why I think the analogy of God as father is a particularly apt   
   one.   
      
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