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   RonO to Martin Harran   
   Re: Evolutionary creationism (5/5)   
   18 Mar 25 08:41:05   
   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More conjecture on your part. Unless of course you can   
   provide   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific examples.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They admit to it on their web site.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where on their web site do they admit it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them are still tweekers   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Behe, and would be the same type of science denier as   
   Behe is.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet again, you can't give a single specific example.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to abide by Saint Augustine's admonishment they   
   wouldn't need to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limit biological evolution due to their Biblical beliefs.    
   They claim   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that their god made humans in his own image using biological   
   evolution..   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do understand that there is a theological debate about   
   what "in his   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image" means, right?  So what literal belief are they   
   supporting and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should they even be trying to support any of the   
   interpretations?  Which   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical beliefs are they willing to falsify using science?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason you can't give any specific examples is that you are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presenting their case upside down. They are not trying to   
   *force* any   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science into anything; to the extent that they are *forcing*   
   anything,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are forcing their traditional Bible interpretation into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodating what science tells us.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> St Augustine would undoubtedly have heartily endorsed what   
   they are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These creationists are claiming that some of the existing   
   science is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent with their Biblical interpretation, but it is   
   not consistent   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what other creationists believe.  If we rewrote the   
   Bible today   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with our current understanding of cosmology we would still   
   be wrong   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about some things, and they would have to be rewritten at   
   some later   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date.  Saint Augustine's admonishment makes it unnecessary   
   to rewrite or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinterpret the Bible.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
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   >>>>>>>>>   
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   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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