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|    RonO to Martin Harran    |
|    Re: Evolutionary creationism (5/5)    |
|    18 Mar 25 08:41:05    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More conjecture on your part. Unless of course you can       provide       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific examples.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They admit to it on their web site.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where on their web site do they admit it?       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them are still tweekers       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Behe, and would be the same type of science denier as       Behe is.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet again, you can't give a single specific example.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to abide by Saint Augustine's admonishment they       wouldn't need to       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limit biological evolution due to their Biblical beliefs.        They claim       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that their god made humans in his own image using biological       evolution..       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do understand that there is a theological debate about       what "in his       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image" means, right? So what literal belief are they       supporting and       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should they even be trying to support any of the       interpretations? Which       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical beliefs are they willing to falsify using science?       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason you can't give any specific examples is that you are       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presenting their case upside down. They are not trying to       *force* any       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science into anything; to the extent that they are *forcing*       anything,       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are forcing their traditional Bible interpretation into       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodating what science tells us.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> St Augustine would undoubtedly have heartily endorsed what       they are       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These creationists are claiming that some of the existing       science is       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent with their Biblical interpretation, but it is       not consistent       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what other creationists believe. If we rewrote the       Bible today       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with our current understanding of cosmology we would still       be wrong       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about some things, and they would have to be rewritten at       some later       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date. Saint Augustine's admonishment makes it unnecessary       to rewrite or       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinterpret the Bible.       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>       >>>>>       >>>       >              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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