From: martinharran@gmail.com
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:26:24 -0500, DB Cates
wrote:
>On 2025-03-18 3:13 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:31:30 -0500, DB Cates
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-03-17 8:31 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 08:42:49 -0500, RonO
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> [giant snip]
>>
>> Thank you for that. I had to stop snipping replies to Ron because if
>> you snip anything at all, he claims you were running from his
>> arguments and reposts the same stuff so you end up with a post 2 or 3
>> times longer than it needs to be :(
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>> We believe that God acts purposefully in creation, just as he does in
>>>>> our lives, and that he continues to actively uphold and sustain creation.
>>>>> END QUOTE:
>>>>
>>>> And again, nothing there about God tweaking life the way Behe claims.
>>>> [another giant snip]
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, what do you think the phrase "he continues to actively
>>> uphold and sustain creation." mean? I mean, in particular "continues"
>>> and "actively".
>>
>> I see this as a background thing, not a direct process. I have 5
>> grown-up children, all with children of their own. I continue to
>> actively uphold and sustain them in whatever way they need but I do
>> not *interfere* in their lives. If, for example, they make decisions
>> that I don't agree with, I *might* offer an opinion if I think it will
>> be welcome but the decision is entirely theirs and I fully accept and
>> support whatever they do decide. The help and support I (and my wife)
>> give them is on request, not pushed on them, though they know it is
>> available when needed, and is given unconditionally.
>>
>> That's why I think the analogy of God as father is a particularly apt
>> one.
>>
>>
>I'm having difficulty reconciling that view with a purported omniscient
>entity.
>
I'm struggling to grasp what difficulty you have, can you elaborate?
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