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|    Martin Harran to All    |
|    Re: Evolutionary creationism (3/3)    |
|    19 Mar 25 13:28:57    |
      [continued from previous message]              >heresy when Galileo first faced the charge in 1616.       >       >Your stupidity about geocentrism is likely directly related to your       >stupidity and lies about the current topic. You just can't accept       >reality for what it is, even if you have to deny what your own trusted       >source told you.       >       >The Biologos creationists just claim what they claim. You have to keep       >lying about it for your own stupid reasons.       >       >>       >>       >>       >>> The Reason to       >>> Believe exIDiots claim that their designer only made it look like       >>> biological evolution happened and is still happening by "recreating" new       >>> species just a little different from the previously existing species.       >>> It is so much like evolution that the new recreation can even interbreed       >>> sometimes with the previously existing species. None of the Biologos       >>> evolutionary creationists are likely that badly off, but they still       >>> claim that supernatural miracles were needed.       >>>       >>> Just admit that you have been lying, and quit lying.       >>       >> You really do need to grasp the idea that people disagreeing with your       >> ideas and opinions does not make them liars.       >       >Just admit that you have been lying since you ran from the quotes the       >first time and started lying. Nothing has changed. The Biologos       >creationist claimed what they are quoted as claiming. They are biblical       >literalists that beileve that evolution is a fact of nature, but they       >believe in Biblical claims like their god making man in his own image,       >and they believe that this god used supernatural miracles in the       >creation and is still using supernatural miracles today. The use of       >supernatural mechanisms is a denial of using natural mechanisms in those       >cases by definition. Natural mechanisms did not do what was       >accomplished by supernatural miracles.       >       >Ron Okimoto       >       >>       >>> You understood       >>> that you were lying when you ran from the quotes and started to lie, and       >>> nothing has changed. The quotes are what they are. Just go up the       >>> thread and relive what you did. Supernatural miracles are not natural       >>> mechanisms for evolution. They are denying that biological evolution is       >>> due to natural processes because they are claiming that unnatural       >>> processes (supernatural miracles) were needed to do specific biblical       >>> literalist interpretations of what had to happen to evolve man in the       >>> image of their god. This is no different from Behe's tweeker designer       >>> claims. Just because they understand that Behe's argument to support       >>> the tweeking is bogus, doesn't change the fact that they are tweekers       >>> too. Behe needed supernatural miracles, but he wasn't as honest about       >>> it as these guys are.       >>>       >>> Ron Okimoto       >>>       >>>>       >>>>       >>>>> when you know that I was always claiming that it was not all       >>>>> natural with their claim about taking the Bible literally, their belief       >>>>> in supernatural miracles, and their belief that their god was       >>>>> manipulating nature in the past and still is. They deny natural       >>>>> mechanisms as much as Behe when he claims that his god was needed to       >>>>> evolve the flagellum, and these guys are claiming that their god made       >>>>> man in his own image, a claim that they make due to their literal       >>>>> interpretation of the Bible. Behe has never claimed how his designer       >>>>> did it except for his off the cuff "puffs of smoke", but these guys are       >>>>> outright claiming supernatural miracles. Your lies were never needed,       >>>>> and were only used because you couldn't deal with the reality that some       >>>>> of these guys are tweekers like an ID perp such as Behe.       >>>>       >>>>       >>>> [snip repetitive earlier posts]       >>>>       >>                     I knew your pathetic screeching about people who disagree with you       being stupid and liars reminded me of someone. I've just been reading       about Trump calling the judge who overruled him a ""a Radical Left       Lunatic Judge". That's exactly who you are like, Donald Trump and I       guess that trying to have a reasoned debate with you is just like       trying to have one with him, a totally stupid waste of time so I guess       I have been stupid in that regard.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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