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   Message 140,734 of 142,579   
   Martin Harran to All   
   Re: Evolutionary creationism (3/3)   
   19 Mar 25 13:28:57   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >heresy when Galileo first faced the charge in 1616.   
   >   
   >Your stupidity about geocentrism is likely directly related to your   
   >stupidity and lies about the current topic.  You just can't accept   
   >reality for what it is, even if you have to deny what your own trusted   
   >source told you.   
   >   
   >The Biologos creationists just claim what they claim.  You have to keep   
   >lying about it for your own stupid reasons.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> The Reason to   
   >>> Believe exIDiots claim that their designer only made it look like   
   >>> biological evolution happened and is still happening by "recreating" new   
   >>> species just a little different from the previously existing species.   
   >>> It is so much like evolution that the new recreation can even interbreed   
   >>> sometimes with the previously existing species.  None of the Biologos   
   >>> evolutionary creationists are likely that badly off, but they still   
   >>> claim that supernatural miracles were needed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Just admit that you have been lying, and quit lying.   
   >>   
   >> You really do need to grasp the idea that people disagreeing with your   
   >> ideas and opinions does not make them liars.   
   >   
   >Just admit that you have been lying since you ran from the quotes the   
   >first time and started lying.  Nothing has changed.  The Biologos   
   >creationist claimed what they are quoted as claiming.  They are biblical   
   >literalists that beileve that evolution is a fact of nature, but they   
   >believe in Biblical claims like their god making man in his own image,   
   >and they believe that this god used supernatural miracles in the   
   >creation and is still using supernatural miracles today.  The use of   
   >supernatural mechanisms is a denial of using natural mechanisms in those   
   >cases by definition.  Natural mechanisms did not do what was   
   >accomplished by supernatural miracles.   
   >   
   >Ron Okimoto   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> You understood   
   >>> that you were lying when you ran from the quotes and started to lie, and   
   >>> nothing has changed.  The quotes are what they are.  Just go up the   
   >>> thread and relive what you did.  Supernatural miracles are not natural   
   >>> mechanisms for evolution.  They are denying that biological evolution is   
   >>> due to natural processes because they are claiming that unnatural   
   >>> processes (supernatural miracles) were needed to do specific biblical   
   >>> literalist interpretations of what had to happen to evolve man in the   
   >>> image of their god.  This is no different from Behe's tweeker designer   
   >>> claims.  Just because they understand that Behe's argument to support   
   >>> the tweeking is bogus, doesn't change the fact that they are tweekers   
   >>> too.  Behe needed supernatural miracles, but he wasn't as honest about   
   >>> it as these guys are.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> when you know that I was always claiming that it was not all   
   >>>>> natural with their claim about taking the Bible literally, their belief   
   >>>>> in supernatural miracles, and their belief that their god was   
   >>>>> manipulating nature in the past and still is.  They deny natural   
   >>>>> mechanisms as much as Behe when he claims that his god was needed to   
   >>>>> evolve the flagellum, and these guys are claiming that their god made   
   >>>>> man in his own image, a claim that they make due to their literal   
   >>>>> interpretation of the Bible.  Behe has never claimed how his designer   
   >>>>> did it except for his off the cuff "puffs of smoke", but these guys are   
   >>>>> outright claiming supernatural miracles.  Your lies were never needed,   
   >>>>> and were only used because you couldn't deal with the reality that some   
   >>>>> of these guys are tweekers like an ID perp such as Behe.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> [snip repetitive earlier posts]   
   >>>>   
   >>   
      
      
   I knew your pathetic screeching about people who disagree with you   
   being stupid and liars reminded me of someone. I've just been reading   
   about Trump calling the judge who overruled him a ""a Radical Left   
   Lunatic Judge". That's exactly who you are like, Donald Trump and I   
   guess that trying to have a reasoned debate with you is just like   
   trying to have one with him, a totally stupid waste of time so I guess   
   I have been stupid in that regard.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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