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   Message 140,748 of 142,579   
   RonO to Martin Harran   
   Re: Evolutionary creationism (4/4)   
   19 Mar 25 13:30:04   
   
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   dishonest dodge to continue lying.  Why would miracles have to   
   contradict science when supernatural miracles, by their very definition   
   fall out side of nature and so outside of the ability of science to make   
   any determination about them?   
      
   >   
   > I asked you for a single example of any miracle claimed by Christians   
   > that contradicts evolution. No example.   
      
   Again, just a dishonest dodge to keep lying.  Why would this be relevant   
   to what you were lying about?  I don't even know why you would even   
   think this was relevant.  It is even a stupid request.  All you need to   
   understand is that the 7 days of creation were a series of miracles.   
   There are obviously Christians that believe that evolution did not   
   happen.  The Bible claims that land plants ere created before sea   
   creatures, but we know that sea creatures evolved over a hundred million   
   years before land plants evolved on this planet from fresh water algae,   
   and that the angiosperms mentioned in the Bible did not evolve until   
   after dinos became the dominant vertebrate tetrapod on land.   
      
   >   
   > There's no point in trying to continue a debate with you when you just   
   > ignore contradictory evidence to your claims and call the person   
   > presenting it a stupid liar. Do you think anyone takes your stupid   
   > insults seriously.?   
      
   There is no reason to keep lying.  There is no contradictory evidence.   
   You were given the quotes that you needed and you decided to start lying   
   about reality instead of deal with reality.  You were a stupid liar.   
   Your continued dodges would indicate that you have put considerable   
   thought into lying about the issue, but what you came up with was   
   irrelevant or did not support your lying.  You might call that being stupid.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> Making claims about me does nothing   
   >> to change the fact that you understand that you have been lying.  What   
   >> is the definition of supernatural miracles?  Natural mechanisms would   
   >> not be responsible for what those supernatural miracles produced.  What   
   >> Trump does has nothing to do with you lying about reality.  If you have   
   >> some weird definition of supernatural miracles you should have addressed   
   >> it instead of running from the quotes and doing what you did.  You have   
   >> been stupid and dishonest.  I can't change that.   
   >>   
   >> Ron Okimoto   
   >   
      
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