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   On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 12:56:27 +0000, the following appeared   
   in talk.origins, posted by Martin Harran   
   :   
      
   >On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:00:03 -0700, Bob Casanova    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:21:45 -0600, the following appeared   
   >>in talk.origins, posted by Pro Plyd   
   >>:   
   >>   
   >>>Bob Casanova wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 17:41:22 +0000, the following appeared   
   >>>> in talk.origins, posted by Martin Harran   
   >>>> :   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 22:24:23 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
   >>>>> [...]   
   >>>>>> As I said, "This post is not an opportunity to dive down the hundred   
   >>>>>> rabbit holes that this overview touches on." The micro/macro question is   
   >>>>>> _the_ evolution debate.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Simply clarifying whether you accept that humans are members of the   
   >>>>> ape family, all evolved from a common ancestor, or whether you think   
   >>>>> humans were created separately as a standalone species doesn't involve   
   >>>>> any rabbit holes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Of course it doesn't. If this discussion were a football   
   >>>> game (US type), he'd be a star receiver; he can weave and   
   >>>> dodge with the best of them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (Still waiting for that info regarding the "Increased   
   >>>> traction" for ID...)   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Here it is:   
   >>>   
   >>Yeah, that was my take, too:   
   >>   
   >>1) Assert.   
   >>2) When asked for evidence, ignore or waffle.   
   >>3) Reassert.   
   >>   
   >>Lather, rinse, repeat.   
   >>>   
   >   
   >He kinda tried to move away from that (without actually retracting it)   
   >by starting a new thread  "Observe the trend. It's happening. Give it   
   >time."   
   >   
   >In that new thread, however, he basically just regurgitated previous   
   >claims and a couple of new references [1] about the shortfalls in   
   >current scientific knowledge. He didn't give anything that supports an   
   >increase in support for ID.   
   >   
   I did see that waffling, but jillery says he "clarified" his   
   original claim by restricting it to refer to the general   
   population.   
   >   
   >-------------------------   
   >   
   >[1] New to him; most of them are quite old.   
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    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not   
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