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   Message 140,760 of 142,579   
   RonO to Martin Harran   
   Re: Evolutionary creationism (4/4)   
   19 Mar 25 18:11:27   
   
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   >>> example.   
   >>   
   >> They claimed that their Biblical literal interpretation made them   
   >> believe that their god created man in his own image.  This is no   
   >> different than Behe claiming that a designer was needed for his IC   
   >> systems.  They even claimed supernatural miracles were involved.  How is   
   >> that not forcing biological evolution into conforming to their Biblical   
   >> interpretations?  "In his image" is a Biblical literalist interpretation.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> I asked you to identify somebody in Biologos supporting tweaking like   
   >>> Bhehe does. No example.   
   >>   
   >> Why would this have ever been needed when we have the claims of Biologos   
   >> to evaluate with no author listed?  Just another dishonest dodge to keep   
   >> lying.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> I asked you what science is contradicted by the miracle of Christs'   
   >>> Resurrection. No example.   
   >>   
   >> This isn't even relevant to what we are discussing.  Just another   
   >> dishonest dodge to continue lying.  Why would miracles have to   
   >> contradict science when supernatural miracles, by their very definition   
   >> fall out side of nature and so outside of the ability of science to make   
   >> any determination about them?   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> I asked you for a single example of any miracle claimed by Christians   
   >>> that contradicts evolution. No example.   
   >>   
   >> Again, just a dishonest dodge to keep lying.  Why would this be relevant   
   >> to what you were lying about?  I don't even know why you would even   
   >> think this was relevant.  It is even a stupid request.  All you need to   
   >> understand is that the 7 days of creation were a series of miracles.   
   >> There are obviously Christians that believe that evolution did not   
   >> happen.  The Bible claims that land plants ere created before sea   
   >> creatures, but we know that sea creatures evolved over a hundred million   
   >> years before land plants evolved on this planet from fresh water algae,   
   >> and that the angiosperms mentioned in the Bible did not evolve until   
   >> after dinos became the dominant vertebrate tetrapod on land.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> There's no point in trying to continue a debate with you when you just   
   >>> ignore contradictory evidence to your claims and call the person   
   >>> presenting it a stupid liar. Do you think anyone takes your stupid   
   >>> insults seriously.?   
   >>   
   >> There is no reason to keep lying.  There is no contradictory evidence.   
   >> You were given the quotes that you needed and you decided to start lying   
   >> about reality instead of deal with reality.  You were a stupid liar.   
   >> Your continued dodges would indicate that you have put considerable   
   >> thought into lying about the issue, but what you came up with was   
   >> irrelevant or did not support your lying.  You might call that being stupid.   
   >>   
   >> Ron Okimoto   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Making claims about me does nothing   
   >>>> to change the fact that you understand that you have been lying.  What   
   >>>> is the definition of supernatural miracles?  Natural mechanisms would   
   >>>> not be responsible for what those supernatural miracles produced.  What   
   >>>> Trump does has nothing to do with you lying about reality.  If you have   
   >>>> some weird definition of supernatural miracles you should have addressed   
   >>>> it instead of running from the quotes and doing what you did.  You have   
   >>>> been stupid and dishonest.  I can't change that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>   
   >   
   >   
   > The bullshit continue to fly. Sad really to see an intelligent guy   
   > making such a fool of himself :(   
   >   
   >   
   Just keep lying about it.  It seems to be all that you can do.  Why no   
   counter except a stupid personal attack?  No more dishonest dodges to   
   pull out of the air?  You should have just addressed reality instead of   
   starting to lie about it.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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