Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"
|    talk.origins    |    Evolution versus creationism (sometimes    |    142,579 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 140,760 of 142,579    |
|    RonO to Martin Harran    |
|    Re: Evolutionary creationism (4/4)    |
|    19 Mar 25 18:11:27    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>> example.       >>       >> They claimed that their Biblical literal interpretation made them       >> believe that their god created man in his own image. This is no       >> different than Behe claiming that a designer was needed for his IC       >> systems. They even claimed supernatural miracles were involved. How is       >> that not forcing biological evolution into conforming to their Biblical       >> interpretations? "In his image" is a Biblical literalist interpretation.       >>       >>>       >>> I asked you to identify somebody in Biologos supporting tweaking like       >>> Bhehe does. No example.       >>       >> Why would this have ever been needed when we have the claims of Biologos       >> to evaluate with no author listed? Just another dishonest dodge to keep       >> lying.       >>       >>>       >>> I asked you what science is contradicted by the miracle of Christs'       >>> Resurrection. No example.       >>       >> This isn't even relevant to what we are discussing. Just another       >> dishonest dodge to continue lying. Why would miracles have to       >> contradict science when supernatural miracles, by their very definition       >> fall out side of nature and so outside of the ability of science to make       >> any determination about them?       >>       >>>       >>> I asked you for a single example of any miracle claimed by Christians       >>> that contradicts evolution. No example.       >>       >> Again, just a dishonest dodge to keep lying. Why would this be relevant       >> to what you were lying about? I don't even know why you would even       >> think this was relevant. It is even a stupid request. All you need to       >> understand is that the 7 days of creation were a series of miracles.       >> There are obviously Christians that believe that evolution did not       >> happen. The Bible claims that land plants ere created before sea       >> creatures, but we know that sea creatures evolved over a hundred million       >> years before land plants evolved on this planet from fresh water algae,       >> and that the angiosperms mentioned in the Bible did not evolve until       >> after dinos became the dominant vertebrate tetrapod on land.       >>       >>>       >>> There's no point in trying to continue a debate with you when you just       >>> ignore contradictory evidence to your claims and call the person       >>> presenting it a stupid liar. Do you think anyone takes your stupid       >>> insults seriously.?       >>       >> There is no reason to keep lying. There is no contradictory evidence.       >> You were given the quotes that you needed and you decided to start lying       >> about reality instead of deal with reality. You were a stupid liar.       >> Your continued dodges would indicate that you have put considerable       >> thought into lying about the issue, but what you came up with was       >> irrelevant or did not support your lying. You might call that being stupid.       >>       >> Ron Okimoto       >>       >>>       >>>       >>>> Making claims about me does nothing       >>>> to change the fact that you understand that you have been lying. What       >>>> is the definition of supernatural miracles? Natural mechanisms would       >>>> not be responsible for what those supernatural miracles produced. What       >>>> Trump does has nothing to do with you lying about reality. If you have       >>>> some weird definition of supernatural miracles you should have addressed       >>>> it instead of running from the quotes and doing what you did. You have       >>>> been stupid and dishonest. I can't change that.       >>>>       >>>> Ron Okimoto       >>>       >       >       > The bullshit continue to fly. Sad really to see an intelligent guy       > making such a fool of himself :(       >       >       Just keep lying about it. It seems to be all that you can do. Why no       counter except a stupid personal attack? No more dishonest dodges to       pull out of the air? You should have just addressed reality instead of       starting to lie about it.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca