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   Message 140,771 of 142,579   
   Martin Harran to All   
   Re: Evolutionary creationism (4/4)   
   20 Mar 25 16:28:14   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >>> natural causes.  They are literally admitting that natural causes were   
   >>> not involved in their miracles.  Supernatural miracles are not natural   
   >>> causes.  You knew this because you ran from the quotes to start lying   
   >>> about the issue.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I asked you for an example of Biologos trying to force biological   
   >>>> evolution into conforming with their Biblical interpretation. No   
   >>>> example.   
   >>>   
   >>> They claimed that their Biblical literal interpretation made them   
   >>> believe that their god created man in his own image.  This is no   
   >>> different than Behe claiming that a designer was needed for his IC   
   >>> systems.  They even claimed supernatural miracles were involved.  How is   
   >>> that not forcing biological evolution into conforming to their Biblical   
   >>> interpretations?  "In his image" is a Biblical literalist interpretation.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I asked you to identify somebody in Biologos supporting tweaking like   
   >>>> Bhehe does. No example.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why would this have ever been needed when we have the claims of Biologos   
   >>> to evaluate with no author listed?  Just another dishonest dodge to keep   
   >>> lying.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I asked you what science is contradicted by the miracle of Christs'   
   >>>> Resurrection. No example.   
   >>>   
   >>> This isn't even relevant to what we are discussing.  Just another   
   >>> dishonest dodge to continue lying.  Why would miracles have to   
   >>> contradict science when supernatural miracles, by their very definition   
   >>> fall out side of nature and so outside of the ability of science to make   
   >>> any determination about them?   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I asked you for a single example of any miracle claimed by Christians   
   >>>> that contradicts evolution. No example.   
   >>>   
   >>> Again, just a dishonest dodge to keep lying.  Why would this be relevant   
   >>> to what you were lying about?  I don't even know why you would even   
   >>> think this was relevant.  It is even a stupid request.  All you need to   
   >>> understand is that the 7 days of creation were a series of miracles.   
   >>> There are obviously Christians that believe that evolution did not   
   >>> happen.  The Bible claims that land plants ere created before sea   
   >>> creatures, but we know that sea creatures evolved over a hundred million   
   >>> years before land plants evolved on this planet from fresh water algae,   
   >>> and that the angiosperms mentioned in the Bible did not evolve until   
   >>> after dinos became the dominant vertebrate tetrapod on land.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There's no point in trying to continue a debate with you when you just   
   >>>> ignore contradictory evidence to your claims and call the person   
   >>>> presenting it a stupid liar. Do you think anyone takes your stupid   
   >>>> insults seriously.?   
   >>>   
   >>> There is no reason to keep lying.  There is no contradictory evidence.   
   >>> You were given the quotes that you needed and you decided to start lying   
   >>> about reality instead of deal with reality.  You were a stupid liar.   
   >>> Your continued dodges would indicate that you have put considerable   
   >>> thought into lying about the issue, but what you came up with was   
   >>> irrelevant or did not support your lying.  You might call that being   
   stupid.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Making claims about me does nothing   
   >>>>> to change the fact that you understand that you have been lying.  What   
   >>>>> is the definition of supernatural miracles?  Natural mechanisms would   
   >>>>> not be responsible for what those supernatural miracles produced.  What   
   >>>>> Trump does has nothing to do with you lying about reality.  If you have   
   >>>>> some weird definition of supernatural miracles you should have addressed   
   >>>>> it instead of running from the quotes and doing what you did.  You have   
   >>>>> been stupid and dishonest.  I can't change that.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> The bullshit continue to fly. Sad really to see an intelligent guy   
   >> making such a fool of himself :(   
   >>   
   >>   
   >Just keep lying about it.  It seems to be all that you can do.  Why no   
   >counter except a stupid personal attack?  No more dishonest dodges to   
   >pull out of the air?  You should have just addressed reality instead of   
   >starting to lie about it.   
      
   So you can call me stupid and a liar as much as you like but I cannot   
   respond to it. That ties in well with your self-centred approach to   
   this whole discussion - one rule for you, different rules for everyone   
   else.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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