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   jillery to {$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk   
   Re: More cats infected with H5N1 by infe   
   25 Mar 25 13:28:23   
   
   From: 69jpil69@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 09:45:56 +0000, Ernest Major   
   <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:   
      
   >On 25/03/2025 06:43, jillery wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 22:50:03 +0000, Ernest Major   
   >> <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:   
   >>    
   >>> On 24/03/2025 16:02, Mark Isaak wrote:   
   >>>> On 3/14/25 7:23 PM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:   
   >>>>> On 13-Mar-25 23:01, RonO wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 3/13/2025 11:06 AM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 13-Mar-25 11:17, RonO wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 12:03 AM, JTEM wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 3/7/25 10:21 PM, RonO wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I don't   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Canada's new PM is assuming emergency powers just to deal with   
   >>>>>>>>> a trade war that they created.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What do you think Trump is going to do, if you succeed in   
   >>>>>>>>> whipping up hysteria?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What a nut job.  Trump is already responsible for the politics   
   >>>>>>>> responsible for the CDC and USDA not doing their jobs.  He and his   
   >>>>>>>> Republican cronies had already burned the CDC and USDA as they   
   >>>>>>>> attempted to deal with Covid.  The USDA was warned repeatedly that   
   >>>>>>>> they were limited on messing with the food system, and they wanted   
   >>>>>>>> to prosecute employees of the CDC just for doing their jobs and   
   >>>>>>>> making the Trumpies look bad.  When the Dairy epidemic started they   
   >>>>>>>> were already gun shy about doing the right thing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And the USDA has been badly understaffed for ages. I don't know   
   >>>>>>> about the CDC specifically, but I suspect they are facing the same   
   >>>>>>> problem. Many regulatory agencies are so severely understaffed that   
   >>>>>>> they're forced to rely on the "Trust Me Bro" approach to compliance   
   >>>>>>> verification. I don't know about you, but I'd prefer not to go back   
   >>>>>>> to the bad old days of needing to cross my fingers and hope the meat   
   >>>>>>> in my frankfurter is actually from pigs or cows.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The truth is the federal civilian workforce is too small, and has   
   >>>>>>> been for decades. The size of the federal workforce has shrunk since   
   >>>>>>> 1990, despite the total labor force growing by more than a third.   
   >>>>>>> All the bafflegab about "bloated government" is coming from   
   >>>>>>> plutocrats who don't want us peons receiving any government services   
   >>>>>>> at all.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Shorter staffed now.  What Trump and DOGE have done is pretty   
   >>>>>> moronic. They aren't cutting waste by mass firings and closing down   
   >>>>>> departments. They are wasting billions of dollars that have already   
   >>>>>> been spent.  Just what he has tried to do with science will likely   
   >>>>>> disrupt science in this country for decades.  All the new researchers   
   >>>>>> that have lost funding or aren't getting it could be lost to science   
   >>>>>> in the future.  Shutting down the programs the way that he has is   
   >>>>>> wasting billions of dollars that have already been spent to get those   
   >>>>>> programs working, and what they currently have in production is being   
   >>>>>> lost.  Projects will never be completed that would have done the   
   >>>>>> country good, and had already cost a lot to get going.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   From my perspective Trump could be the worst national security   
   >>>>>> breech in the history of the United States.  Putin's influence over   
   >>>>>> Trump was apparent in his first administration.  How could an enemy   
   >>>>>> nation ever get the president of the United States into a private   
   >>>>>> conference with Putin with only a Russian interpreter present?  It is   
   >>>>>> no secret that Russia interfered with all three of Trump's   
   >>>>>> presidential election bids in order to get Trump elected.  Trumps   
   >>>>>> policies seem to have always been Russia first.  Trump spent most of   
   >>>>>> his first term alienating our long time allies and disrupting NATO.   
   >>>>>> His activities this term have been more overt in favoring Russia. His   
   >>>>>> policies have not been America first, but to weaken our world   
   >>>>>> position, stop humanitarian aid, alienate our long term Allies,   
   >>>>>> disrupt NATO and attempt to disrupt the US by weakening our economy   
   >>>>>> and trashing our scientific future that has made our country what it   
   >>>>>> is today.  US citizens pay for the Tariffs that he is imposing, and   
   >>>>>> what is that going to do for inflation?  All the major science   
   >>>>>> journals are published in English, Trump's policies are designed to   
   >>>>>> reverse that.  China is building a science juggernaut, and has   
   >>>>>> started creating Chinese science journals.  Some of the last few   
   >>>>>> papers that I reviewed had started citing papers in those Chinese   
   >>>>>> journals.  It might not be long before our graduate schools will have   
   >>>>>> to reinstitute the foreign language requirement.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> We likely should try to figure out why Russia interfered with all the   
   >>>>>> elections trying to get Trump elected.  Trump needs to have a good   
   >>>>>> explanation for why a leader of a Western free nation would be   
   >>>>>> suckered into a private conference with a leader of an enemy nation   
   >>>>>> with no US interpreter present.  Why would Trump be claiming that the   
      
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