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   jillery to All   
   How To Teach Evolution To A Creationist   
   28 Mar 25 01:07:53   
   
   From: 69jpil69@gmail.com   
      
   Here's a link to a 32-minute Youtube video I found both entertaining   
   and informative:   
      
      
      
   Sponsored by Center For Inquiry.  Forrest Valkai identifies specific   
   examples of some standard Creationist anti-evolution arguments, and   
   then gives his answers to them.  For those allergic to clicking on   
   Youtube videos, here are his first few examples:   
      
      ***   
      
   @2:47 Is it just me or is it impossible to line up animals in the way   
   they "evolved"?   
      
   @3:36 So, if we're taking that view of Darwinism we can ask how could   
   something like this, something like a mouse trap, be put together one   
   tiny step at a time?   
      
   @3:48 There are transitions within kinds but not from one kind to   
   another kind.  A cat doesn't evolve into a dog or vice versa.     
      
   @3:56 Both humans and squid have a lens that projects an image onto a   
   retina.  That means that a very similar eye had to evolve twice.     
      
   @4:04 No way! An eye is so amazing!  It seems impossible that it could   
   have evolved in the first place.  But now they believe it happened   
   twice?  Yep, that would be impossible times two.   
      
   @4:15 The discovery of information at the foundation of life in even   
   the simplest living cells provides strong grounds for inferring that a   
   designing intelligence played a role in the origin of life.   
      
   @4:26 We didn't like evolve from anything.  That doesn't make any   
   sense.  I mean how can like an African-American person evolve from a   
   white person?  We're different skin.   
      
      
      ***   
      
   It's almost certain that T.O. readers have heard/read arguments   
   similar to those above.  No matter how one might respond to them, ISTM   
   the answers Valkai provides are, from an evolutionary perspective   
   "good enough".   
      
   And in response to the "Someone is wrong on the Internet" trope,   
   Valkai offers the following:   
      
      
      ***   
      
   @31:39 Teaching evolution to creationists is an uphill battle that's    
   been raging for hundreds of years.  You're not going to win it   
   overnight.  But if you can win over just one person, you will be    
   freeing that person from the shackles of dogmatic thinking, and you'll   
   be protecting the future from a population that would burn the world   
   around them out of ignorance and fear.  And that is a very worthy   
   endeavor.   
      
   --    
   To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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