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   On 2025-04-01 11:38:55 +0000, Ernest Major said:   
      
   > On 01/04/2025 10:13, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:   
   >> On 2025-04-01 00:51:34 +0000, Bob Casanova said:   
   >>   
   >>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:34:39 -0500, the following appeared   
   >>> in talk.origins, posted by DB Cates :   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2025-03-31 11:38 a.m., Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-03-31 16:19:18 +0000, Bob Casanova said:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:04:13 -0700, the following appeared   
   >>>>>> in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson   
   >>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 3/30/25 7:00 PM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The last day of March is the Transgender Day of Visibility, a day to   
   >>>>>>>> improve awareness of transgender people, to draw attention to the   
   >>>>>>>> challenges and oppression we face, and help people understand us   
   >>>>>>>> better.   
   >>>>>>>> The TDoV is more important than ever in 2025, as the Trump   
   >>>>>>>> Administration has put us squarely in its target sights.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> One of the ways I can fight for my existence, and that of several of   
   my   
   >>>>>>>> friends and loved ones, is by being visible as myself, answering   
   >>>>>>>> questions, and demystifying trans people.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I am a transgender woman. I am visible. Ask me anything.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Intending no disrespect, I'm sympathetic to anyone with gender   
   >>>>>>> dysphoria.  It's probably a conclusion that you and others have   
   reached   
   >>>>>>> only after some serious introspection.  That's your business, not   
   mine,   
   >>>>>>> and doesn't disturb me in the slightest.  I do object to biological   
   >>>>>>> males competing in women's sports, and I think it's a very bad idea for   
   >>>>>>> minors to do anything irrevocable before their brains are at least   
   >>>>>>> soft-boiled.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Agreed. All.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Agreed. All.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Sort of agreed, but re: sports, how exactly do you define 'biological   
   >>>> male' and how would you plan to enforce it? And yes, it is a bad idea   
   >>>> for minors to do anything irrevocable. The cases I know of are in late   
   >>>> adolescence with a long history of really knowing what they want and   
   >>>> decisions made by doctor/parent in cases of infants with ambiguous or   
   >>>> damaged genitalia. I'm okay with the first but dead against the second.   
   >>>>   
   >>> The issue is regarding the difference between biological   
   >>> males (generally XY) and biological females (generally XX)   
   >>> in upper-body strength after puberty; if it weren't a   
   >>> problem such athletes as "Lia" Thomas wouldn't go from   
   >>> underperforming in men's sports to record breakers in female   
   >>> sports, and the records would be comparable between males   
   >>> and females. But they aren't. Titlele IX was passed for a   
   >>> reason. If you have no interest in fair competition, fine,   
   >>> but at least recognize that there *is* a difference.   
   >>   
   >> "Lia" Thomas isn't the worst example. I find it appalling that the   
   >> International Olympic Committee found it perfectly OK to have a man   
   >> beating up a woman as a legitimate spectator sport.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Have you been deceived by the misinformation spread about Imane Khelif?   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif   
      
   No, but maybe you have.   
      
      
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