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|    06 Apr 25 17:24:31    |
      From: rokimoto557@gmail.com              https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-04-multiple-sclerosis-oscars-science.html              Phys.org has a link to this article. Multiple sclerosis was thought to       be some type of autoimmune disease where the patients own immune defense       system starts attacking specific tissue. In this case neurons are       attacked. These researchers determined that B cells were involved when       others were looking elsewhere. B cells play an important part in our       adaptive immune system. B cells produce the near infinite array of       antibodies, and when one gets selected as being potent enough they       become memory cells and keep producing that same antibody, that is used       to mount a rapid immune response if the antigen for that antibody       infects the host again. Previous infection with Epstein Barr virus is       associated with inducing the autoimmune response that attacks the neural       tissue.              A couple of decades ago another herpes virus (Marek's specifically HVT       (Turkey hervesvirus) vaccine) was found to be associated with the       autoimmune disease vitiligo (the immune system attacks melanocytes) when       I was still at the University of Arkansas. They had a line of chickens       that were prone to acquiring vitiligo. It was found that the line       needed to be vaccinated with HVT before they would start to have       symptoms. Unvaccinated birds could go their whole lives without getting       the autoimmune disease. Another herpes virus was found to be associated       with Alzheimer's around 5 years ago.              Herpes virus has some mechanism for evading our adaptive immune system.       Virus like Marek's are never cleared from the birds. They are       suppressed, but the birds will shed infective virus for the rest of       their lives. It integrates into the genome and can pop out and start a       replication cycle. My take is that the virus messes with the system       that screens antibodies as being self or foreign, and somehow mixes it's       foreign antigens in with the antigens that have been determined to be       self antigens. There likely are individuals that have certain genetic       variants that alter the sequence of the normally self antigens so that       they get associated with the foreign antigens of the herpes virus. The       virus messes with the self recognition system designed to prevent       autoimmune disease, and causes some host self antigens to produce an       adaptive immune response. The prediction would be that vitiligo or       multiple sclerosis patients would share genetic variants involved in the       self recognition process, and may also have a specific antigen sequence       in melanocytes for vitiligo or neural tissue for MS patients. Some       protein in those cells gets misidentified as being a foreign antigen,       and an adaptive immune response is mounted against that self antigen.              As a side note I am going off by myself on a road trip for the next       couple of weeks, and likely will not be posting, since I never put       Eternal September on my personal laptop.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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