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   Message 140,973 of 142,579   
   jillery to JTEM   
   Re: Let's all point & laugh (Fermi Parad   
   18 Apr 25 05:48:06   
   
   From: 69jpil69@gmail.com   
      
   On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 15:45:22 -0400, JTEM  wrote:   
      
   >On 4/17/25 4:54 AM, jillery wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 00:01:38 -0400, JTEM  wrote:   
   >>    
   >>>   
   >>> https://youtu.be/T2RNhM0yEFk?feature=shared&t=320   
   >>>   
   >>> So we're the first to reach this level of technology, and this   
   >>> level is low on a galactic scale... we're the highest level in   
   >>> the galaxy, being the first to attain this level, and this the   
   >>> most highest level in the galaxy is low in term of the galaxy...   
   >>>   
   >>> Yeah. That about sums it up.   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> Like the origin of life, it's not about who was first.  It is about   
   >> who survived.   
   >   
   >Random. Typical.   
      
      
   Thoughless noise.  Typical.   
      
      
   >The statement is contradictory. We can't be both "Low" on a   
   >galactic scale AND the absolute highest in the galaxy.   
      
      
   Putting aside for the moment your misunderstanding of "contradictory",   
   the point you conveniently ignore is that star-traveling   
   civilizations, if they exist, almost certainly rise and fall; just ask   
   Asimov.   
      
      
   >>> There is no such thing as a Fermi paradox. It's an erroneous   
   >>> assumption. That's all. If I assume you like carrots and you   
   >>> don't, it's not a paradox. That is NOT what a "Paradox" means.   
   >   
   >> Of course, what you say it means is willfully stupid, as usual:   
   >   
   >We're not arguing here. You either grasp what words means or you   
   >don't, and you clearly do not.   
   >   
   >> ***********************************   
   >> a seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that   
   >> when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true.   
   >   
   >No. The textbook example of a paradox is the "Grandfather Paradox" in   
   >time travel, where if you go back in time and murder your grandfather   
   >before he had any children, you were never born so you couldn't possibly   
   >go back in time and murder him.   
   >   
   >THAT is a paradox.   
      
      
   THAT is one of many types of paradoxes:   
      
      
      
   >There is no Fermi "Paradox." There is an assumption that is wrong.   
   >Period.   
      
      
   You and Casanova have the same fantasy about being an authority on the   
   meaning of words.   
      
   --    
   To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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