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   RonO to All   
   update dairy influenza   
   12 May 25 08:34:26   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   This is a post that I tried to send 5/4, but no new posts loaded since 4/30.   
      
   I've been on the road for most of April, but in terms of the H5N1 dairy   
   epidemic the USDA and CDC seem to be continuing to downplay the   
   situation and continue to refuse to say if the continuing infections of   
   cattle are the D1 (wild bird) or B3.13 (dairy) genotype.   
      
   https://gisaid.org/phylogeny-influenza/hpai-h5n1-usa/   
      
   According to the GISAID phylogeny the infection of the Nevada dairy   
   worker with the D1 genotype (supposedly infected by infected dairy   
   cattle) and the Wyoming patient that had to be hospitalized with the D1   
   infection got infected by a virus that is the same lineage as the D1   
   genotype that infected some of the Washington poultry workers back in   
   October 2024.  These were the poultry workers that were detected 10/23   
   and not with the first group detected 10/09.  The 10/23 group were   
   likely the group that was detected because they went to Oregon and   
   tested positive.  It looks like some infected Washington poultry workers   
   went to Wyoming and Nevada and infected animals there so that the   
   Wyoming patient (02/11/2025) and the Nevada dairy worker (02/04/2025)   
   could be infected.  The D1 infection was established in Nevada before   
   the Wyoming patient was infected with the same lineage, so the D1 virus   
   may have gone from Washington to Nevada, and then to Wyoming and   
   Arizona.  Washington did not restrict poultry worker movements even   
   though they knew that some of them were infected.  Nevada wasn't   
   restricting worker movements even though they knew that dairy workers   
   were getting infected.  No contact tracing was attempted.   
      
   Nothing about the relationship between the Washington poultry worker   
   strain and the Wyoming and Nevada infections has been announced because   
   the CDC and USDA refuse to do the epidemiological analysis of the   
   samples that they obtain, and the USDA continues to put out useless data   
   and continue to refuse to state where the samples came from except that   
   they came from the USA.  The human infections can be tracked because the   
   CDC does supply the location information with the sequence, but they   
   have consistently refused to do the epidemiological analysis.  They do   
   not want to do contact tracing nor detect the human to animal and human   
   to human infections that have likely been occurring.   
      
   Idaho is having a major second round of infection of their herds.  They   
   were one of the first states to have infected herds, but they stopped   
   testing their herds early on and just let the infection run through the   
   state.  They are not stating if this round is the D1 virus or continues   
   to be the B3.13 genotype.  The initial Idaho infection were infected by   
   a lineage that came from Texas, but the infection detected by contact   
   tracing from California half a year later was infected by the California   
   lineage.  This lineage is significantly different from the Texas   
   lineages, and it is likely that those herds were infected by the   
   California cattle, and not the other way around as California was   
   claiming.  The California strain may be infecting all the recent Idaho   
   herds or it could be the D1 genotype from Arizona and Nevada.   
      
   Since I went on the road, herds in Arizona, Idaho, and California have   
   continued to be confirmed to be infected, but they are not saying what   
   genotype is responsible for the infections.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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