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   RonO to All   
   The immaterial ID scam   
   12 May 25 09:38:26   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   https://evolutionnews.org/2025/05/the-immaterial-genome-richard-   
   ternbergs-labor-of-love/   
      
   In 2014 Behe destroyed around 7 years of Sternberg's "scientific" work   
   on gaps in the whale fossil record that he started when he joined the ID   
   scam back in 2007.  Behe pointed out that whale evolution at the   
   molecular level was the type of evolution expected to happen due to   
   Darwinian mechanisms because a lot of genes had to be broken in order   
   for whales to revert to an aquatic lifestyle after their ancestors had   
   spent several hundred million years adapting to a terrestrial lifestyle.   
     If breaking these genes had some selective advantage, when they broke   
   the broken genes would have been expected to be selected for.  The   
   broken genes still existed in the whale genome just where they were once   
   functional in the ancestors of cetaceans, but Behe claimed that it was a   
   bad type of evolution (devolution) in order to try to fool the rubes and   
   get them to continue the creationist evolution denial.  Behe was really   
   claiming that his designer would have done it some other way.  Whales   
   must have evolved when the designer wasn't looking.  This destroyed   
   Sternberg's whale fossil gap denial that he had been working on for over   
   half a decade.   
      
   Apparently Sternberg started working on something else to scam the   
   creationist rubes with and came up with the Immaterial genome that he   
   has supposedly been working on since 2013 (there have been several   
   articles about the topic on the creationist news site).  On his web site   
   Sternberg had claimed that he joined the ID scam unit in 2007, but   
   Gauger claims that he was attending lab meetings in 2006 (she used to   
   work at the ID scam's research institute).  Sternberg was hired by the   
   ID perp's Biologic Institute to work up more intelligent design scam   
   bait to attract the rubes.  It should be noted that Sternberg joined up   
   for the bait and switch scam after the creationist loss in Dover.   
      
   Apparently, Sternberg rediscovered the well documented fact that life   
   comes from life.  You need a living cell to make another living cell.   
   If a cell has been "dead" for too long and it's internal systems have   
   been disrupted it can be difficult or impossible to restart the cell and   
   get it to live again.  Embryo development requires starting with a fully   
   functional cell.  Lifeforms do not just inherit DNA from their   
   ancestors.  They inherit a functioning cell.  The inheritance of these   
   cellular functions and structures are just as important as the   
   inheritance of the genetic material.  No mystery, and something that has   
   been well understood, before the genetic material was identified.   
      
   This seems to be the next frontier of ID scam bait denial.  Gaps in the   
   whale fossil record are no longer mentioned.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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