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   RonO to All   
   New infections with the dairy virus not    
   30 Jun 25 16:42:10   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   https://hogvet51.substack.com/p/h5n1-dairy-infection-narratives-and   
      
   I found this site on dairy influenza, and this article notes most of   
   what I have been reporting on.  The lack of testing and epidemiology   
   studies.  They still do not know how the cows are getting infected.  The   
   claim that contaminated milking equipment might be the source of   
   infection or animal contact can't be replicated.  Cows living with   
   infected cows do not get infected, and repeated contact with   
   contaminated milking equipment failed to transmit the virus.   
      
   The missing component in the tests were infected dairy workers working   
   with the cattle.   
      
   There is also the note that they do not know how the poultry farms are   
   getting infected even though they go down around infected dairies.   
   Again they fail to note that infected dairy workers likely also work at   
   the poultry farms.   
      
   It seems crazy that they haven't figured out how dairy workers are   
   transmitting the virus to the cows and poultry.   
      
   This article also notes that the USDA is not reporting new infections if   
   they occur in states that have cleared the virus already.  Apparently   
   Colorado has started to report more infected herds, but they aren't   
   counted because the herds were previously infected last year.  They   
   aren't even noting if it is the D1.1 virus or the B3.13 dairy infection.   
     Nevada and Arizona were infected with the D1.1 genotype, and it turned   
   out to be the same lineage that infected the Washington state poultry   
   workers, and the Wyoming human patient and the Nevada dairies and dairy   
   worker.  These were the poultry workers that got caught leaving   
   Washington (several of them were detected as positive in Oregon and sent   
   back to Washington).  What likely happened is that some of the infected   
   poultry workers or their contacts were not detected and managed to get   
   to Nevada and eventually Wyoming and Arizona.  The epidemiology was   
   never attempted.  They never tested the dairy workers and never did   
   contact tracing between the dairies in Nevada and Arizona.  They knew   
   that they didn't get cattle, but they refused to determine if dairy   
   workers had moved from state to state.   
      
   QUOTE:   
   We continue to have good evidence that both the B3.13 and D1.1 strains   
   persist in infected herds and spread onward to new herds and to poultry   
   flocks via unknown mechanisms despite assumed best efforts to contain   
   spread with quarantines and increased biosecurity.   
   END QUOTE:   
      
    From this guys article the missing link to infecting more dairy cattle   
   are the dairy workers.  The studies that failed to transmit the virus   
   did not have infected dairy workers working with the cattle.  One early   
   article noted that dairy workers were likely getting eye infections   
   because they wiped their faces with the same towel that they washed the   
   cows utters with before applying the suction cups.  Spreading the virus   
   could work both ways with that towel.  They refuse to make restricting   
   dairy worker movements a requirement for quarantine.  It is still only   
   recommended that dairy workers do not work on other farms if they work   
   at an infected dairy.  No one should wonder how it spreads to other   
   herds after all the infected herds have been identified and quarantined.   
      
   It has been known since the first flocks got infected in Michigan that   
   dairy workers from infected dairies also worked on the commercial farms   
   that got infected.  How the poultry flocks are being infected should be   
   no mystery.   
      
   This guy also notes that poultry flocks are going down with the dairy   
   virus in the Midwest and those states are not reporting infected dairy   
   herds as is likely the case.  Everyone understands that the poultry   
   flocks are getting infected by the nearby dairy herds, but no one wants   
   to admit that dairy workers are taking the virus to the poultry farms.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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