From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 6/30/2025 7:19 PM, RonO wrote:   
   > On 6/30/2025 5:09 PM, RonO wrote:   
   >> On 6/30/2025 4:42 PM, RonO wrote:   
   >>> https://hogvet51.substack.com/p/h5n1-dairy-infection-narratives-and   
   >>>   
   >>> I found this site on dairy influenza, and this article notes most of   
   >>> what I have been reporting on.  The lack of testing and epidemiology   
   >>> studies.  They still do not know how the cows are getting infected.   
   >>> The claim that contaminated milking equipment might be the source of   
   >>> infection or animal contact can't be replicated.  Cows living with   
   >>> infected cows do not get infected, and repeated contact with   
   >>> contaminated milking equipment failed to transmit the virus.   
   >>>   
   >>> The missing component in the tests were infected dairy workers   
   >>> working with the cattle.   
   >>>   
   >>> There is also the note that they do not know how the poultry farms   
   >>> are getting infected even though they go down around infected   
   >>> dairies. Again they fail to note that infected dairy workers likely   
   >>> also work at the poultry farms.   
   >>>   
   >>> It seems crazy that they haven't figured out how dairy workers are   
   >>> transmitting the virus to the cows and poultry.   
   >>>   
   >>> This article also notes that the USDA is not reporting new infections   
   >>> if they occur in states that have cleared the virus already.   
   >>> Apparently Colorado has started to report more infected herds, but   
   >>> they aren't counted because the herds were previously infected last   
   >>> year.  They aren't even noting if it is the D1.1 virus or the B3.13   
   >>> dairy infection.   Nevada and Arizona were infected with the D1.1   
   >>> genotype, and it turned out to be the same lineage that infected the   
   >>> Washington state poultry workers, and the Wyoming human patient and   
   >>> the Nevada dairies and dairy worker.  These were the poultry workers   
   >>> that got caught leaving Washington (several of them were detected as   
   >>> positive in Oregon and sent back to Washington).  What likely   
   >>> happened is that some of the infected poultry workers or their   
   >>> contacts were not detected and managed to get to Nevada and   
   >>> eventually Wyoming and Arizona.  The epidemiology was never   
   >>> attempted.  They never tested the dairy workers and never did contact   
   >>> tracing between the dairies in Nevada and Arizona.  They knew that   
   >>> they didn't get cattle, but they refused to determine if dairy   
   >>> workers had moved from state to state.   
   >>>   
   >>> QUOTE:   
   >>> We continue to have good evidence that both the B3.13 and D1.1   
   >>> strains persist in infected herds and spread onward to new herds and   
   >>> to poultry flocks via unknown mechanisms despite assumed best efforts   
   >>> to contain spread with quarantines and increased biosecurity.   
   >>> END QUOTE:   
   >>>   
   >>>  From this guys article the missing link to infecting more dairy   
   >>> cattle are the dairy workers.  The studies that failed to transmit   
   >>> the virus did not have infected dairy workers working with the   
   >>> cattle. One early article noted that dairy workers were likely   
   >>> getting eye infections because they wiped their faces with the same   
   >>> towel that they washed the cows utters with before applying the   
   >>> suction cups. Spreading the virus could work both ways with that   
   >>> towel.  They refuse to make restricting dairy worker movements a   
   >>> requirement for quarantine.  It is still only recommended that dairy   
   >>> workers do not work on other farms if they work at an infected   
   >>> dairy.  No one should wonder how it spreads to other herds after all   
   >>> the infected herds have been identified and quarantined.   
   >>>   
   >>> It has been known since the first flocks got infected in Michigan   
   >>> that dairy workers from infected dairies also worked on the   
   >>> commercial farms that got infected.  How the poultry flocks are being   
   >>> infected should be no mystery.   
   >>>   
   >>> This guy also notes that poultry flocks are going down with the dairy   
   >>> virus in the Midwest and those states are not reporting infected   
   >>> dairy herds as is likely the case.  Everyone understands that the   
   >>> poultry flocks are getting infected by the nearby dairy herds, but no   
   >>> one wants to admit that dairy workers are taking the virus to the   
   >>> poultry farms.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ron Okimoto   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I should note that the Missouri study that found that most dairy   
   >> cattle tested had antibodies to human influenza A (the samples were   
   >> collected before the dairy epidemic hit Missouri).  They could not   
   >> have gotten infected by wild birds because wild birds are not infected   
   >> by human adapted influenza A.  The obvious vector of transmission to   
   >> dairy cattle are infected dairy workers infecting the cattle.   
   >>   
   >> The study found that most dairy cattle were being infected by human   
   >> influenza A or swine influenza A (can also infect humans).  So   
   >> influenza infection of dairy cattle is not unusual, and since it was   
   >> human adapted influenza A it was likely due to the spread of the virus   
      
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