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|    erik simpson to RonO    |
|    Re: Dolphins and Orcas - going aquatic i    |
|    09 Jul 25 08:19:55    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>> That was pretty much my thought; while an exact "replay in       >>> reverse" would be essentially impossible, as you say there       >>> are multiple paths. All that would be required would be a       >>> re-creation of function, not an exact "reboot".       >>>       >>> As has been pointed out several times, a re-start at the       >>> original point would almost certainly (probability as close       >>> to zero as can be imagined) *not* follow the identical path       >>> resulting in the current species, but the same challenges       >>> should result in something similar.       >>       >>       >> By analogy, it's possible flightless birds could potentially re-evolve       >> functional flight, but the newly evolved structures would necessarily       >> be very different from those of extant flying birds.       >>       >       > flightless birds still have feathers, but they are more like the       > feathers dinos had in some cases. In a lot of cases the wing feathers       > do not develop properly and are too short or the bird is now too heavy       > to fly. You would not have to reevolve flight feathers, just redevelop       > flight functional feathers, and you would not have to do it by       > recreating what got broken, you could do it by taking a path similar to       > the one taken by dinos to evolve the flight capable feathers in the       > first place, but you already have flight feathers. My take is that if       > the flighted birds went extinct that even ratites could reevolve flight       > using feathers, but they would have to reevolve the feather structure       > needed for flight. They still have the basic capability, they just need       > to improve it like dinos did. They would not have to do it in exactly       > the same way that dinos did it. They all still have keels, as far as I       > know, so they would not have to reevolve that structure for flight       > muscle attachment.       >       > Ron Okimoto       >       >       As things stand right now, whales/dolphins would stand little chance of       coming back on land unless there were some new, unoccupied ecological       niche that didn't have something there already. But consider a major       extinction event that wiped out most land vertebrates; there'd be a       free-for-all, and it's hard to rule out anything.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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