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|    Icons of creationist denial    |
|    16 Jul 25 14:54:33    |
      From: rokimoto557@gmail.com              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icons_of_Evolution              It likely is telling that the ID perps are trying to elevate one of       their most disreputable members in terms of science denial and       dishonesty. Claiming that Wells was the Newton of the ID creationist       scam is pathetic.              I put up a Wiki link to Wells' book that is under discussion, and all       the book was, was a rehash of anti-science creationist arguments that       had been used for decades by the Scientific creationists before Wells       became an ID perp by joining the Discovery Institute creationist Wedge       faction.              Wells' icons       1 Miller–Urey experiment       2 Darwin's tree of life       3 Homology in vertebrate limbs       4 Haeckel's embryos       5 Archaeopteryx       6 Peppered moth       7 Darwin's finches       8 Four-winged fruit flies       9 Fossil horses       10 Hominid evolution              All of them were being used to deceive creationist rubes who wanted to       believe the scientific creationists before the Supreme Court decision in       1985 that spawned the name change from creationism to intelligent design       among the ID perps. Wells just continued the dishonest       misrepresentation of the same material.              There is no question that all 10 were abused by the scientific       creationists decades before Wells repeated the abuse in his book. In       reality these were among the Icons of scientific creationism       anti-science. They were the common topics that the scientific       creationists would lie about in order to deny the science that they       didn't like, and all the scientific creationist bogus arguments failed       to impress the Supreme Court, just as Wells' book had no impact on any       competent and informed honest individuals.              #1 is #3 of the ID perps' Top Six (the origin of life denial). #2 is #5       of the ID perps' Top Six (includes the Cambrian explosion). #10 is #6       of the ID perps' Top Six (gaps in the human fossil record). #1, 2, and       4 (the Big Bang, fine tuning, and IC (flagellum, blood clotting, and       adaptive immune response) respectively) of the ID perps' Top Six were       not included in Wells' book likely because #1 and 2 aren't in       introductory biology textbooks and Behe's type of IC has never been       determined to exist in nature, so textbooks can't be faulted for not       mentioning it. The Top Six gap denial arguments were all used by the       scientific creationists long before they lost out in the Supreme Court       case in 1985.              Anyone just has to compare the 10 in Wells' book to the rest of the       creationist Icons of scientific creationist denial to know how bogus       Wells' book has to be. There are a lot of creationist Icons that aren't       in honest biology textbooks. The second law of thermodynamics,       bombardier beetle, piltdown man, bull frog proteins, Gish's half cow       half whale transitional, all the fossil gap arguments etc. The gene       sharing between bananas and humans is still going around, and Gish had       his flagellum is a designed machine that could not have evolved over a       decade before Behe used the argument.              The scientific creationist misused all 10 of Wells' icons decades before       Wells wrote his book. They are all among the icons of creationist       science denial. Such is the legacy of the Newton of the ID creationist       scam. All 10 were routine parts of the Gish gallop, though, probably,       not all were included all the time, but Gish would cram as much denial       into the Gish gallop as he could.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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