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   Message 141,088 of 142,579   
   RonO to Athel Cornish-Bowden   
   Re: "Thermodynamic Limitations on the Na   
   17 Jul 25 10:00:38   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/17/2025 5:53 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:   
   > On 2025-07-17 08:56:37 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John said:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 15:44:28 +1000   
   >> MarkE  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> From this recent EN article:   
   >>> https://evolutionnews.org/2025/07/new-article-from-james-tour-   
   >>> undermines-a-pillar-of-origin-of-life-theories/   
   >>>   
   >>> 'In comparison to a protein’s half-life, the rate of polypeptide   
   chain   
   >>> elongation under prebiotic conditions is very long. Yang et al. (2025)   
   >>> identify numerous barriers to sustained polypeptide growth, including   
   >>> the formation of non-peptide linkages and cyclic structures, stringent   
   >>> environmental requirements, and unfavorable thermodynamics. Their   
   >>> analysis establishes that the rate of growth must be far smaller than   
   >>> one added amino acid per chain per day."   
   >>>   
   >>> "Even assuming one addition each day, synthesizing a protein of 200   
   >>> amino acids would require over six months. However, the growing chain   
   >>> would almost certainly degrade in a much shorter time span. The   
   >>> challenge is even greater for RNA, which has a significantly shorter   
   >>> half-life and encounters additional chemical and structural hurdles   
   >>> during formation."   
   >>>   
   >>> Paper here: https://sciendo.com/article/10.2478/biocosmos-2025-0010   
   >>>   
   >>> No doubt this paper will be critiqued and disputed, but it is I think an   
   >>> example of the ongoing scrutiny and developing fundamental challenges to   
   >>> OoL. My prediction is these will continue to emerge, weakening   
   >>> materialistic abiogenesis and strengthening ID's core claim.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> ID has no science; it doesn't explain anything. It's classic God of the   
   >> Gaps.  But you've been told before. PS get a better news source.   
   >   
   > And people interested in serious science don't look for it in Evolution   
   > News.   
   >   
   MarkE goes there because he wants to be a rube.  True IDiotic believers   
   want to be lied to.  It is a direct source for how the ID perps are   
   continuing the ID scam.   
      
   The scam artists putting up junk from Tour when Tour has admitted that   
   ID has always been a creationist scam, and that he doesn't know how to   
   do any ID science, so he understands that the ID science never existed.   
   Tour understands that the ID perps have always been lying to the rubes   
   about any ID science.  Tour just can't give up on the denial.  It is the   
   only way that he has left to lie to himself about reality.   
      
   MarkE and Tour are likely just one step away from being like Bill and   
   retreating to the stupid claim that reality doesn't exist.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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