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   Message 141,091 of 142,579   
   Martin Harran to MarkE   
   Re: "Thermodynamic Limitations on the Na   
   17 Jul 25 19:23:05   
   
   From: martinharran@gmail.com   
      
   On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 15:44:28 +1000, MarkE  wrote:   
      
   > From this recent EN article:   
   >https://evolutionnews.org/2025/07/new-article-from-james-tour-u   
   dermines-a-pillar-of-origin-of-life-theories/   
   >   
   >'In comparison to a protein’s half-life, the rate of polypeptide chain   
   >elongation under prebiotic conditions is very long. Yang et al. (2025)   
   >identify numerous barriers to sustained polypeptide growth, including   
   >the formation of non-peptide linkages and cyclic structures, stringent   
   >environmental requirements, and unfavorable thermodynamics. Their   
   >analysis establishes that the rate of growth must be far smaller than   
   >one added amino acid per chain per day."   
   >   
   >"Even assuming one addition each day, synthesizing a protein of 200   
   >amino acids would require over six months. However, the growing chain   
   >would almost certainly degrade in a much shorter time span. The   
   >challenge is even greater for RNA, which has a significantly shorter   
   >half-life and encounters additional chemical and structural hurdles   
   >during formation."   
   >   
   >Paper here: https://sciendo.com/article/10.2478/biocosmos-2025-0010   
   >   
   >No doubt this paper will be critiqued and disputed, but it is I think an   
   >example of the ongoing scrutiny and developing fundamental challenges to   
   >OoL. My prediction is these will continue to emerge, weakening   
   >materialistic abiogenesis and strengthening ID's core claim.   
   >   
      
   You have clearly still not grasped the principle that you cannot   
   insist that *must have been* the butler who killed her ladyship simply   
   because you have shown it is very unlikely that his lordship did it.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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