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   Kalkidas to Martin Harran   
   Re: "Thermodynamic Limitations on the Na   
   17 Jul 25 12:46:47   
   
   From: eat@joes.pub   
      
   On 7/17/2025 11:23 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   > On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 15:44:28 +1000, MarkE  wrote:   
   >   
   >>  From this recent EN article:   
   >> https://evolutionnews.org/2025/07/new-article-from-james-tour   
   undermines-a-pillar-of-origin-of-life-theories/   
   >>   
   >> 'In comparison to a protein’s half-life, the rate of polypeptide chain   
   >> elongation under prebiotic conditions is very long. Yang et al. (2025)   
   >> identify numerous barriers to sustained polypeptide growth, including   
   >> the formation of non-peptide linkages and cyclic structures, stringent   
   >> environmental requirements, and unfavorable thermodynamics. Their   
   >> analysis establishes that the rate of growth must be far smaller than   
   >> one added amino acid per chain per day."   
   >>   
   >> "Even assuming one addition each day, synthesizing a protein of 200   
   >> amino acids would require over six months. However, the growing chain   
   >> would almost certainly degrade in a much shorter time span. The   
   >> challenge is even greater for RNA, which has a significantly shorter   
   >> half-life and encounters additional chemical and structural hurdles   
   >> during formation."   
   >>   
   >> Paper here: https://sciendo.com/article/10.2478/biocosmos-2025-0010   
   >>   
   >> No doubt this paper will be critiqued and disputed, but it is I think an   
   >> example of the ongoing scrutiny and developing fundamental challenges to   
   >> OoL. My prediction is these will continue to emerge, weakening   
   >> materialistic abiogenesis and strengthening ID's core claim.   
   >>   
   >   
   > You have clearly still not grasped the principle that you cannot   
   > insist that *must have been* the butler who killed her ladyship simply   
   > because you have shown it is very unlikely that his lordship did it.   
   >   
      
   Nature simultaneously destroys what it (allegedly) creates. And it   
   destroys it faster than it (allegedly) creates it.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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