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|    Athel Cornish-Bowden to MarkE    |
|    Re: "Thermodynamic Limitations on the Na    |
|    18 Jul 25 12:28:16    |
      From: me@yahoo.com              On 2025-07-18 04:30:11 +0000, MarkE said:              > On 18/07/2025 5:25 am, Kalkidas wrote:       >> On 7/16/2025 10:44 PM, MarkE wrote:       >>> From this recent EN article: https://evolutionnews.org/2025/07/new-       >>> article-from-james-tour-undermines-a-pillar-of-origin-of-life-theories/       >>>       >>> 'In comparison to a protein’s half-life, the rate of polypeptide chain       >>> elongation under prebiotic conditions is very long. Yang et al. (2025)       >>> identify numerous barriers to sustained polypeptide growth, including       >>> the formation of non-peptide linkages and cyclic structures, stringent       >>> environmental requirements, and unfavorable thermodynamics. Their       >>> analysis establishes that the rate of growth must be far smaller than       >>> one added amino acid per chain per day."       >>>       >>> "Even assuming one addition each day, synthesizing a protein of 200       >>> amino acids would require over six months. However, the growing chain       >>> would almost certainly degrade in a much shorter time span. The       >>> challenge is even greater for RNA, which has a significantly shorter       >>> half-life and encounters additional chemical and structural hurdles       >>> during formation."       >>>       >>> Paper here: https://sciendo.com/article/10.2478/biocosmos-2025-0010       >>>       >>> No doubt this paper will be critiqued and disputed, but it is I think       >>> an example of the ongoing scrutiny and developing fundamental       >>> challenges to OoL. My prediction is these will continue to emerge,       >>> weakening materialistic abiogenesis and strengthening ID's core claim.       >>       >> Note that the replies to your post offer no refutation of any of the       >> points of the paper, Just name-calling and genetic fallacies.       >>       >       > Noted; not unusual. Pity - Athel could add some content to this discussion.              Of course I could, because I know what the laws of thermodynamics say,       but what would be the point?              --       athel cb : Biochemical Evolution, Garland Science, 2016              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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