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|    RonO to RonO    |
|    Re: More misinformation about junk DNA?     |
|    21 Jul 25 16:05:34    |
      From: rokimoto557@gmail.com              On 7/20/2025 2:05 PM, RonO wrote:       > https://phys.org/news/2025-07-reveals-hidden-regulatory-roles-junk.html       >       > QUOTE:       > Today, TEs make up nearly half of the human genome. While they were once       > thought to serve no useful function, recent research has found that some       > of them act like "genetic switches," controlling the activity of nearby       > genes in specific cell types.       > END QUOTE:       >       > This was likely never true from McClintock's first papers on       > transposable elements in the late 1930's. She found them to regulate       > gene expression, and the regulation could be developmentally regulated.       > Transposons would become active at certain developmental stages of the       > plant.       >       > They were not considered to be part of junk DNA because they had no       > effect on gene regulation. They were considered to be junk because they       > were obviously repetitive parasitic DNA sequences. It would be the       > organims that had to adapt to dealing with how they altered the       > regulation of genes that they jumped into or around. It has been known       > for decades that some transposons are responsible for interesting       > mutations. Morgan's famous white eyed fly was due to a copia element       > transposon. This is just overhype of the recent findings. My guess is       > that the ID perps will use the stupid misinformation to claim that junk       > DNA isn't junk, when they never wanted their designer to be responsible       > for parasitic DNA sequences. Why would a designer produce a parasitic       > DNA parasite that is responsible for many de novo infant genetic defects       > when they move around the genome? Transposons do not account for over       > half the human genome because they are good and useful. It is because       > we can't get rid of them, and they are effective parasites.       >       > Ron Okimoto       >       https://evolutionnews.org/2025/07/another-case-where-junk-myth-impeded-science/              More misinformation about junk DNA from the ID perps.              QUOTE:       For decades, evolutionary biologists considered non-coding regions of       DNA as evolutionary junk, a paradigm that long dissuaded researchers       from studying these little-understood portions of the genome. But a       series of discoveries starting in 2008 has forced a major change in       thinking about so-called “junk” DNA. Many examples of function have       since been identified for the non-coding regions of DNA, and more are       being uncovered each year. On a new episode of ID the Future, Dr. Casey       Luskin reports on a pair of American biologists who were recently       awarded the Nobel Prize for their discovery of function in what was       previously considered junk DNA.              MicroRNAs are another case where the presumption of a genome bloated       with useless debris has proven to be an impediment to science. Back in       1993, when microRNA and its role in post-transcriptional gene regulation       was first identified, the development was met with skepticism and       silence by a scientific community largely wedded to the assumption that       non-coding regions of DNA must be junk. Now, the 2024 Nobel Prize raises       the question with special poignancy: Did junk DNA thinking slow a Nobel       Prize-worthy discovery from being recognized? The answer appears to be yes.       END QUOTE:              RNA genes were never considered to be junk DNA. The paper that is       always cited as designating junk DNA excluded regulatory sequences, and       then known RNA genes such as ribosomal RNA, small nuclear RNAs, and       tRNAs from being junk. We always understood that regulatory sequences       existed in the noncoding sequence, and people were always actively       looking for regulatory sequences in noncoding DNA. We already       understood that there were RNA genes that did things in the cells before       junk DNA was called junk DNA. The first two IDiotic paragraphs are       fiction (lies). Micro RNAs were never ignored. As soon as they were       identified and characterized the results were readily accepted because       small RNA interference was already a working technology. RNA       interference was a widely used research tool in the 1990's.              Not only this fact, but the fact that small RNAs that regulated mRNA       post transcriptionally had already been discovered in plants, and were       the actual drivers of RNA interference research that was already up and       running when these guys made their micro RNA discovery. Their research       wasn't ignored it was just a me too accomplishment that had already       spawned a useful technology before they made their discovery. Micro RNA       genes became useful when researchers discovered ways to change the       sequence of the micro RNA genes so that they would regulate different       specific genes. Micro RNAs work just like RNA interference small RNAs       had always worked, but you could make constructs that would produce the       micro RNA sequence that you wanted in the cell.              The reason why no one made a big deal about the discovery, was because       it wasn't anything that was really new and exceptional. I didn't think              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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