From: nospam@buzz.off   
      
   On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:55:36 +0200, the following appeared   
   in talk.origins, posted by IDentity :   
      
   >On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 16:33:09 -0400, JTEM  wrote:   
   >   
   >>  RonO wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> That ID is still successful as bait should should be   
   >>   
   >>How many people do you *Still* fool into believing that   
   >>abiogenesis is real science, instead of a religious   
   >>belief?   
   >>   
   >>There's no facts backing up abiogenesis, you simply like   
   >>it.   
   >>   
   >>That's it.   
   >   
   >It's actually quite simple to prove that abiogenesis, as well as   
   >evolution without intelligent control, is impossible, using   
   >fundamental physical concepts and axioms.   
   >   
   >But not the current concepts and axioms which mainstream science is   
   >built upon.  Most of these concepts and axioms, such as   
   >thermodynamics, are fundamentally flawed and inconsistent with actual   
   >reality.  Trying to prove a theory is wrong using the very same flawed   
   >arguments which the theory is based on obviously doesn't lead   
   >anywhere.   
   >   
   >So, the current scientific concepts and axioms need to be corrected   
   >first, before there is any hope for real progress in science.  Many   
   >are working on this now however,  so I guess it's only a matter of   
   >time.   
   >   
   Perhaps you'd be so good as to state clearly at least two of   
   the "concepts and axioms" which are "fundamentally flawed",   
   along with the specific flaws you imagine exist and why you   
   consider them to be flaws? Precisely and in detail, please.   
      
   Thanks.   
   >   
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