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   On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 21:59:47 +0200, the following appeared   
   in talk.origins, posted by Athel Cornish-Bowden   
   :   
      
   >On 2025-07-26 19:27:59 +0000, IDentity said:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:13:55 -0700, erik simpson   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 7/25/25 9:55 AM, IDentity wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So, the current scientific concepts and axioms need to be corrected   
   >>>> first, before there is any hope for real progress in science.  Many   
   >>>> are working on this now however,  so I guess it's only a matter of   
   >>>> time.   
   >>>>   
   >>> In what respect do you regard thermodynamics as fundamentally flawed?   
   >>> Do you use a refrigerator  or air conditioner?   
   >>   
   >> If you use the current flawed thermodynamics to predict the   
   >> temperatures which are generated by these devices, you may find that   
   >> they do no match the actual temperatures that are generated.  Flaw in   
   >> 2nd law.   
   >   
   >That is a vague hand-waving argument with no supporting data. Can you   
   >point to a serious paper in a serious journal that presents your point   
   >of view? Do you know of any real scientists who agree with you? Who?   
   >   
   Since I'm sure he/she/it will ignore those questions, that   
   would be, in order:   
   "No, I can't."   
   "No, I don't."   
   As for "Who?": <"PHHBBTTT!">   
   >   
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