From: nospam@buzz.off   
      
   On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 21:27:59 +0200, the following appeared   
   in talk.origins, posted by IDentity :   
      
   >On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:13:55 -0700, erik simpson   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 7/25/25 9:55 AM, IDentity wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> So, the current scientific concepts and axioms need to be corrected   
   >>> first, before there is any hope for real progress in science.  Many   
   >>> are working on this now however,  so I guess it's only a matter of   
   >>> time.   
   >>>   
   >>In what respect do you regard thermodynamics as fundamentally flawed?   
   >>Do you use a refrigerator  or air conditioner?   
   >   
   >If you use the current flawed thermodynamics to predict the   
   >temperatures which are generated by these devices, you may find that   
   >they do no match the actual temperatures that are generated.  Flaw in   
   >2nd law.   
   >   
   IOW, you cannot support your assertions and evade the   
   question by doing the usual "Nutbar Moonwalk": "You look it   
   up if you want to know; I can't be bothered!". It would be   
   amusing if it hadn't been used by nutbars to evade questions   
   dozens or hundreds of times.   
      
   But let me guess; your "logic" involves something about   
   "closed systems"?   
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   Bob C.   
      
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    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not   
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"   
      
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