From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   https://evolutionnews.org/2025/08/jay-richards-on-an-icon-of-int   
   lligent-design-and-20-years-of-a-bifurcating-culture/   
      
   Apparently Jay Richards claims that the perfect solar eclipse due to the   
   moon's size and orbital position as an icon of the ID scam.  This claim   
   seems to be utter nonsense, and the perfect solar eclipse likely isn't   
   any sane type of support for the ID scam.  It is part of the ID perp's   
   fine tuning stupidity (#2 of the Top Six), but it actually is just   
   support for the accidental evolution of our solar system.  The fine   
   tuning would have had to have been done in such a way that another   
   planet with just the right mass hit the earth at just the right angle to   
   eject enough debris into orbit so that the moon would form around 20,000   
   miles from earth.  This collision would have added just enough mass to   
   the earth so that enough energy would be transferred to the moon so that   
   over billions of years the moons orbital velocity would increase and the   
   distance between the earth and the moon would increase to what it is   
   today so that the moon would be just the right distance from the earth   
   to just occlude all of the sun during a total eclipse.  This would mean   
   that our solar system has been evolving over billions of years under   
   natural laws, and is not the subject of any instantaneous creation.   
      
   Earth's rotation has slowed over billions of years so that our current   
   day length is 24 hours, and the moon has gotten further and further away   
   from the earth.   
      
   Some god may have planned it all to occur the way that it did, but that   
   god isn't the god described in the Bible.  The sun and moon were not   
   created the day after plants were created on this earth, and the moon   
   was created so that it would take billions of years to achieve it's   
   current orbit.   
      
   Jay Richards was the first program director for the ID scam, and after   
   the Wedge document was exposed he was honest enough to admit that the   
   Wedge was the program that he was directing, and he pointed to the ID   
   perp's mission statment to support that admission.   
      
   https://web.archive.org/web/19980114111554/http:/discovery.org/c   
   sc/aboutcrsc.html   
      
   The ID perp's mission statement was pretty much repeated in the Wedge   
   document.   
      
   At least the ID perps posted the Icon article as a religious topic under   
   their Faith and Science header.  Probably only a YEC IDiot would   
   consider the current distance to the moon to be an Icon of the ID scam.   
   You'd have to likely believe that the sun and moon were created on the   
   4th day in order to think that the orbit was finely tuned to produce a   
   total eclipse by just covering the sun without much extra to spare.  The   
   article claims that the evidence for Richard's 2004 book, Privileged   
   Planet, has grown over the last two decades.  The sad thing is that it   
   was just published to keep using ID as bait (the bait and switch ID scam   
   started in 2002), and the bait and switch has continued to go down on   
   hapless creationist rubes to this day.  The evidence never grew strong   
   enough to end the bait and switch scam that the ID perps have been   
   running for over 23 years.  They sell the rubes the bogus ID science,   
   and then only give them an obfuscation and denial switch scam that they   
   tell the rubes has nothing to do with ID nor creationism.   
      
   As a side note I got pictures of the last total eclipse that passed   
   through Arkansas and you could make out a possible solar flare on the   
   photo that I took with my camera.  You could see the solar flare more   
   clearly on the projection from the monocular that I had set up.  I   
   didn't have a telescope just a spotting scope.  During totality you   
   could look directly through the spotting scope and could clearly see the   
   solar flares.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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