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   Bob Casanova posted:   
      
   > On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in   
   > talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti   
   > :   
   >   
   > >   
   > >Rufus Ruffian posted:   
   > >   
   > >> E.Laureti wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> > we can show experiments,   
   > >>   
   > >> no you can't.   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > >in Figure 5 in   
   > >   
   > >https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-e   
   ectromagnetic-thruster/   
   > >   
   > >it is a simple experiment that show the possibility   
   > >to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics   
   > >(That Newton did not know)   
   > >   
   > >Do it by yourself :-)   
   > >   
   > >becouse rocketry it is a comic scam   
      
      
   Bob Casanova posted:   
      
   > On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in   
   > talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti   
   > :   
   >   
   > >   
   > >Rufus Ruffian posted:   
   > >   
   > >> E.Laureti wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> > we can show experiments,   
   > >>   
   > >> no you can't.   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > >in Figure 5 in   
   > >   
   > >https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interaction-e   
   ectromagnetic-thruster/   
   > >   
   > >it is a simple experiment that show the possibility   
   > >to violate newtonian action reaction principle by electrodynamics   
   > >(That Newton did not know)   
   > >   
   > >Do it by yourself :-)   
   > >   
   > >becouse rocketry it is a comic scam   
   > >   
   > Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary   
   > orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and   
   > the edge of the solar system.   
   >   
   > Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So   
   > which is the "comic scam"?   
      
   Since the time of Apollo 11 (more than half a century ago), rockets   
   have been continuously proposing to colonize at least the Moon.   
    A serious person should understand why they still fail to do so.   
    The limits are written in the thermodynamics of rockets, and   
   it is explained here https://propulsion-revolution.com.   
   It is comical and rather tragic that they insist on not understanding   
    that a means of colonization (like Columbus's caravels) must start   
    and return whole and not with about 0.3% of the starting mass.   
    Unfortunately, those who criticize the PNN should know   
   that others, and not the Asps, have stated that with   
    the Lorentz force applied to open circuits,   
   Newton's third law can be circumvented.   
      
    I apologize, but I continually find myself fighting with my association   
    against a bunch of fools who do not even want to replicate elementary   
   experiments that contradict them.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   > >   
   > Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary   
   > orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and   
   > the edge of the solar system.   
   >   
   > Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So   
   > which is the "comic scam"?   
   > >   
   > >see the facts   
   > >   
   > >Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg   
   > >   
   > >Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg   
   > >   
   > >:-)   
      
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