From: user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   Bob Casanova  posted:   
      
   > On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:26:29 GMT, the following appeared in   
   > talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti   
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   > >Bob Casanova  posted:   
   > >   
   > >> On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 14:17:57 GMT, the following appeared in   
   > >> talk.origins, posted by E.Laureti   
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   > >> >Rufus Ruffian  posted:   
   > >> >   
   > >> >> E.Laureti wrote:   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> > we can show experiments,   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> no you can't.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >   
   > >> >in Figure 5 in   
   > >> >   
   > >> >https://neolegesmotus.com/2020/11/02/field-self-interactio   
   -electromagnetic-thruster/   
   > >> >   
   > >> >it is a simple experiment that show the possibility   
   > >> >to violate newtonian action reaction  principle by electrodynamics   
   > >> >(That Newton did not know)   
   > >> >   
   > >> >Do it by yourself  :-)   
   > >> >   
   > >> >becouse rocketry it is a comic scam   
   > >> >   
   > >> Rockets allowed us to reach Low Earth Orbit, geostationary   
   > >> orbit, the Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets and   
   > >> the edge of the solar system.   
   > >>   
   > >> Your "invention" has yet to reach the roof of your house. So   
   > >> which is the "comic scam"?   
   > >   
   > >Since the time of Apollo 11 (more than half a century ago), rockets   
   > >have been continuously proposing to colonize at least the Moon.   
   > > A serious person should understand why they still fail to do so.   
   > > The limits are written in the thermodynamics of rockets, and   
   > >it is explained here https://propulsion-revolution.com.   
   > >   
   > >It is comical and rather tragic that they insist on not understanding   
   > > that a means of colonization (like Columbus's caravels) must start   
   > > and return whole and not with about 0.3% of the starting mass.   
   > > Unfortunately, those who criticize the PNN should know   
   > >that others, and not the Asps, have stated that with   
   > > the Lorentz force applied to open circuits,   
   > >Newton's third law can be circumvented.   
   > >   
   > > I apologize, but I continually find myself fighting with my association   
   > > against a bunch of fools who do not even want to replicate elementary   
   > >experiments that contradict them.   
   > >   
   > When you have a successful experiment (one which   
   > demonstrates working hardware, not a "simple experiment that   
   > show the possibility", but a functional unit which reaches   
   > at least 10 km in altitude), then you might get some   
   > positive attention. Until then, it's all smoke and mirrors   
   > and "this should work". "Shoulda, woulda, coulda"; the proof   
   > is in the working demonstration. Until them, I'm outta here.   
   >   
   > And FYI, this is off-topic in this newsgroup.   
      
   Mr. Casanova is kind at heart and doesn't ask to arrive on Mars like others   
   😊   
      
   namaste   
      
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   > >Namaste   
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   > >   
   > >> >   
   > >> >see the facts   
   > >> >   
   > >> >Outgoing http://www.asps.it/artemisnov22.jpg   
   > >> >   
   > >> >Return http://www.asps.it/artemisback.jpg   
   > >> >   
   > >> >:-)   
      
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