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   RonO to All   
   Dembski's advice to college students   
   14 Aug 25 08:49:23   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   https://evolutionnews.org/2025/08/dembski-to-college-students-if   
   you-lay-back-and-bare-your-throat-theyll-cut-it-for-you/   
      
   QUOTE:   
   Allan CP on The Science Dilemma has some great questions for   
   mathematician and philosopher William Dembski including about   
   often-heard objections to intelligent design. The “God of the gaps” and   
   “creationism in a cheap tuxedo” criticisms would top that list. Dembski   
   addresses them.   
      
   What, as Dr. Dembski says, is “the key point” to grasp about the ID   
   debate? It is that ID versus Darwinian evolution isn’t a struggle of   
   religion against science but of “science versus science.” In other   
   words, you have rival scientific understandings of the evidence of   
   nature, locked in serious disagreement with serious cultural   
   consequences — but at bottom it’s a scientific disagreement.   
   END QUOTE:   
      
   If it was true that the ID scam is science the bait and switch would not   
   have been necessary for over 23 years.  ID would have been taught in   
   public schools decades ago.  All the ID scam is at this time is   
   god-of-the-gaps creationist denial.  The Top Six god-of-the-gaps ID scam   
   stupidity are the same gap arguments that the Scientific creationists   
   used to use except instead of the Biblical god filling the gaps some   
   intelligent designer is filling the gaps, and the ID perps all admit   
   that their designer is the Biblical god.   
      
   What is really sad is that none of Dembski's junk qualified to be among   
   the Top Six.  Dembski had quit the ID scam as an abject IDiotic failure   
   several years before the ID perps decided to shoot themselves in the   
   head by putting out the Top Six in the order in which they must have   
   occurred in this universe.  The ID perps only took Dembski back and   
   started to pay him off because he knows where all the bodies are buried.   
     He hasn't done any ID science since returning to the ID scam.  When he   
   retired from the ID scam he claimed that he was going to go into   
   education, but couldn't get an honest job, so he had to return to   
   running the bait and switch scam on hapless creationist rubes.  The ID   
   perps had to run the bait and switch on the West Virginia creationist   
   rubes in 2024 after Dembski returned to the ID scam (2021), so nothing   
   changed about having any ID science.  All the ID perps are doing at this   
   time is to continue to put out the ID scam junk as bait.  That is all ID   
   has been since they started running the bait and switch scam in 2002.   
      
   This is how sad the ID scam has become.  All they ever had to support   
   their creationist Wedge strategy is the obfuscation and denial switch   
   scam that the ID perps tell the creationist rubes has nothing to do with   
   their ID science.   
      
   Really, if ID were really science the ID perps would have never started   
   running a bait and switch scam on their own creationist support base.   
   Not a single creationist rube has ever gotten any ID science from the ID   
   perps.  Lying to college students is tragically lame.  Nearly all the   
   college creationist IDEA clubs died after the bait and switch went down.   
     Apparently, none of them wanted to discuss the switch scam junk just   
   like nearly all the creationist rubes drop the issue instead of bending   
   over for the switch scam when they don't get any ID science to teach.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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