From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/14/2025 8:49 AM, RonO wrote:   
   > https://evolutionnews.org/2025/08/dembski-to-college-students-if-you-   
   > lay-back-and-bare-your-throat-theyll-cut-it-for-you/   
   >   
   > QUOTE:   
   > Allan CP on The Science Dilemma has some great questions for   
   > mathematician and philosopher William Dembski including about often-   
   > heard objections to intelligent design. The “God of the gaps” and   
   > “creationism in a cheap tuxedo” criticisms would top that list. Dembski   
   > addresses them.   
   >   
   > What, as Dr. Dembski says, is “the key point” to grasp about the ID   
   > debate? It is that ID versus Darwinian evolution isn’t a struggle of   
   > religion against science but of “science versus science.” In other   
   > words, you have rival scientific understandings of the evidence of   
   > nature, locked in serious disagreement with serious cultural   
   > consequences — but at bottom it’s a scientific disagreement.   
   > END QUOTE:   
   >   
   > If it was true that the ID scam is science the bait and switch would not   
   > have been necessary for over 23 years.  ID would have been taught in   
   > public schools decades ago.  All the ID scam is at this time is god-of-   
   > the-gaps creationist denial.  The Top Six god-of-the-gaps ID scam   
   > stupidity are the same gap arguments that the Scientific creationists   
   > used to use except instead of the Biblical god filling the gaps some   
   > intelligent designer is filling the gaps, and the ID perps all admit   
   > that their designer is the Biblical god.   
   >   
   > What is really sad is that none of Dembski's junk qualified to be among   
   > the Top Six.  Dembski had quit the ID scam as an abject IDiotic failure   
   > several years before the ID perps decided to shoot themselves in the   
   > head by putting out the Top Six in the order in which they must have   
   > occurred in this universe.  The ID perps only took Dembski back and   
   > started to pay him off because he knows where all the bodies are buried.   
   >   He hasn't done any ID science since returning to the ID scam.  When he   
   > retired from the ID scam he claimed that he was going to go into   
   > education, but couldn't get an honest job, so he had to return to   
   > running the bait and switch scam on hapless creationist rubes.  The ID   
   > perps had to run the bait and switch on the West Virginia creationist   
   > rubes in 2024 after Dembski returned to the ID scam (2021), so nothing   
   > changed about having any ID science.  All the ID perps are doing at this   
   > time is to continue to put out the ID scam junk as bait.  That is all ID   
   > has been since they started running the bait and switch scam in 2002.   
   >   
   > This is how sad the ID scam has become.  All they ever had to support   
   > their creationist Wedge strategy is the obfuscation and denial switch   
   > scam that the ID perps tell the creationist rubes has nothing to do with   
   > their ID science.   
   >   
   > Really, if ID were really science the ID perps would have never started   
   > running a bait and switch scam on their own creationist support base.   
   > Not a single creationist rube has ever gotten any ID science from the ID   
   > perps.  Lying to college students is tragically lame.  Nearly all the   
   > college creationist IDEA clubs died after the bait and switch went down.   
   >   Apparently, none of them wanted to discuss the switch scam junk just   
   > like nearly all the creationist rubes drop the issue instead of bending   
   > over for the switch scam when they don't get any ID science to teach.   
   >   
   > Ron Okimoto   
   >   
      
   QUOTE:   
   Dembski to College Students: “If You Lay Back and Bare Your Throat,   
   They’ll Cut It for You”   
   END QUOTE:   
      
   If those college students ever become less ignorant and informed about   
   the ID creationists scam, they would know that Dembski is actually   
   telling them that if the bend over the ID perps will give them the   
   obfuscation and denial switch scam, just where they never wanted it.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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