From: ru@ru.ru
Von Ottone wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 12:22:01 -0700, Vincent Maycock
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:41:27 GMT, E.Laureti
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) posted:
> >>
> >>> ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 287: '\xE2'" while
decoding:
> >>>
> >>> In article <0001HW.2E54AA9A0031F5CB70000253B38F@news.supernews.com>,
> >>> WolfFan wrote:
> >>> >On Aug 19, 2025, Von Ottone wrote
> >>> >(in article<54n8ak9iq1pa8cnl33lngo12c2qegdaci8@4ax.com>):
> >>> >
> >>> >> Envy is a nasty beast; it makes you jealous and clouds your mind.
> >>> >
> >>> >You still canâ??t lift one kilo one meter for one minute.
> >>> >
> >>> >Note that, according to your own â??figuresâ??, if you lifted a working
fluid
> >>> >(water, for instance) and then let it fall past a turbine, the power.
> >>> >generated would exceed the power required to lift the working fluid.
Thatâ??s
> >>> >a perpetual motion machine of the second type. Which is impossible. Your
> >>> >machine simply cannot work, and never will. Youâ??re simply a bunch of
con
> >>> >artists trying on a scam.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Disclaimer: I don't think this device works at all but if it did. I am
> >>> sufficiently confident in the conservation laws
> >>
> >>usi il traduttore .
> >>Il dettaglio essenziale che non nota č che le leggi di conservazione
newoniane
> >>sono state elaborate senza conoscere la forza di Lorentz su cui si basa la
PNN.
> >>E poi dimentica che la fisica ha origini sperimentali
> >>e tutto si deve piegare SEMPRE all'esperimento.
> >>Ho sempre detto che le leggi di conservazione di Newton vanno poi
> >>interpretate con l'inserimento dell'elettrodinamica che Newton neppure
conosceva.
> >>E' un compito che lascio ad altri
> >>Mi occupo di fare BENE solo gli esperimenti e di mostrarli agli increduli.
> >>L'uso ossessivo della meccanica newtoniana per la propulsione in
astronautica
> >>ci preclude ogni colonizzazione dello spazio come la reatŕ finora dimostra
brutalmente.
> >
> >That is,
> >
> >>"use the translator. The essential detail that you do not notice is that
Newtonian conservation
> >>laws were developed without knowing the Lorentz force on which PNN is
based.
> >
> >No, the Lorentz force is quite consistent with Newtonian dynamics. And
> >Newtonian conservation laws were derived from first principles by Emmy
> >Noether some time after special relativity was developed.
> >
> >>And then you forget that physics has experimental origins and that
> >>everything must always bend to the experiment.
> >
> >But experiment must be consistent with previously verified theory.
> >
> >> I have always said that Newton's conservation laws must then be
interpreted
> >>with the inclusion of electrodynamics, which Newton did not even know.
> >
> >Which led to relativity, not perpetual motion machines or whatever
> >you're trying to do.
> >
> >> It is a task
> >>that I leave to others. I focus on doing experiments WELL and showing them
to the skeptics.
> >>The obsessive use of Newtonian mechanics for propulsion in astronautics
precludes
> >>any colonization of space, as reality has so far brutally demonstrated.
> >
> >So because you want to travel through space, Newtonian mechanics
> >*must* be wrong?
> >
> >>>that my first question
> >>> on seeing it work (after checking for invisible fishing line or cgi)
> >>> would be to wonder from what source the motive energy is being drawn.
> >>>
> >>> (It's never tachyons. It would be cool if it was tachyons, except
> >>> for the whole "universes with tachyons may not be stable" deal)
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
> Bhuahahahahahahaha
>
> You are so fun!
>
> You think that you know more than Laureti about PNN...
It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they
don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.
Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He
was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about erraticly,
wondering why his machine doesn't work.
The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.
Always will be.
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