From: user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   Rufus Ruffian  posted:   
      
   > Von Ottone  wrote:   
   > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 12:22:01 -0700, Vincent Maycock   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > >On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:41:27 GMT, E.Laureti   
   > > > wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > >>   
   > > >>jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) posted:   
   > > >>   
   > > >>> ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 287: '\xE2'" while   
   decoding:   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> In article <0001HW.2E54AA9A0031F5CB70000253B38F@news.supernews.com>,   
   > > >>> WolfFan   wrote:   
   > > >>> >On Aug 19, 2025, Von Ottone wrote   
   > > >>> >(in article<54n8ak9iq1pa8cnl33lngo12c2qegdaci8@4ax.com>):   
   > > >>> >   
   > > >>> >> Envy is a nasty beast; it makes you jealous and clouds your mind.   
   > > >>> >   
   > > >>> >You still canâ??t lift one kilo one meter for one minute.   
   > > >>> >   
   > > >>> >Note that, according to your own â??figuresâ??, if you lifted a   
   working fluid   
   > > >>> >(water, for instance) and then let it fall past a turbine, the power.   
   > > >>> >generated would exceed the power required to lift the working fluid.   
   Thatâ??s   
   > > >>> >a perpetual motion machine of the second type. Which is impossible.   
   Your   
   > > >>> >machine simply cannot work, and never will. Youâ??re simply a bunch   
   of con   
   > > >>> >artists trying on a scam.   
   > > >>> >   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> Disclaimer: I don't think this device works at all but if it did. I am   
   > > >>> sufficiently confident in the conservation laws   
   > > >>   
   > > >>usi il traduttore .   
   > > >>Il dettaglio essenziale che non nota è che le leggi di conservazione   
   newoniane   
   > > >>sono state elaborate senza conoscere la forza di Lorentz su cui si basa   
   la PNN.   
   > > >>E poi dimentica che la fisica ha origini sperimentali   
   > > >>e tutto si deve piegare SEMPRE all'esperimento.   
   > > >>Ho sempre detto che le leggi di conservazione di Newton vanno poi   
   > > >>interpretate con l'inserimento dell'elettrodinamica che Newton neppure   
   conosceva.   
   > > >>E' un compito che lascio ad altri   
   > > >>Mi occupo di fare BENE solo gli esperimenti e di mostrarli agli   
   increduli.   
   > > >>L'uso ossessivo della meccanica newtoniana  per la propulsione in   
   astronautica   
   > > >>ci preclude ogni colonizzazione dello spazio come la reatà finora   
   dimostra brutalmente.   
   > > >   
   > > >That is,   
   > > >   
   > > >>"use the translator. The essential detail that you do not notice is that   
   Newtonian conservation   
   > > >>laws were developed without knowing the Lorentz force on which PNN is   
   based.   
   > > >   
   > > >No, the Lorentz force is quite consistent with Newtonian dynamics. And   
   > > >Newtonian conservation laws were derived from first principles by Emmy   
   > > >Noether some time after special relativity was developed.   
   > > >   
   > > >>And then you forget that physics has experimental origins and that   
   > > >>everything must always bend to the experiment.   
   > > >   
   > > >But experiment must be consistent with previously verified theory.   
   > > >   
   > > >> I have always said that Newton's conservation laws must then be   
   interpreted   
   > > >>with the inclusion of electrodynamics, which Newton did not even know.   
   > > >   
   > > >Which led to relativity, not perpetual motion machines or whatever   
   > > >you're trying to do.   
   > > >   
   > > >> It is a task   
   > > >>that I leave to others. I focus on doing experiments WELL and showing   
   them to the skeptics.   
   > > >>The obsessive use of Newtonian mechanics for propulsion in astronautics   
   precludes   
   > > >>any colonization of space, as reality has so far brutally demonstrated.   
   > > >   
   > > >So because you want to travel through space, Newtonian mechanics   
   > > >*must* be wrong?   
   > > >   
   > > >>>that my first question   
   > > >>> on seeing it work (after checking for invisible fishing line or cgi)   
   > > >>> would be to wonder from what source the motive energy is being drawn.   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> (It's never tachyons. It would be cool if it was tachyons, except   
   > > >>> for the whole "universes with tachyons may not be stable" deal)   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>>   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Bhuahahahahahahaha   
   > >   
   > > You are so fun!   
   > >   
   > > You think that you know more than Laureti about PNN...   
   >   
   > It seems everyone here knows enough about Laureti's claims that they   
   > don't believe him. That's more than Laureti knows about it.   
   >   
   > Technical flaws were pointed out in Laureti's theory and practice. He   
   > was unable to respond coherently. Meanwhile he thrashes about erraticly,   
   > wondering why his machine doesn't work.   
   >   
   > The "invention" has always been ridiculed on Usenet, and ignored in RL.   
   > Always will be.   
   >   
      
   repeat this charlatan   
      
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