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|    Student of Stanley Miller comments on Oo    |
|    22 Aug 25 09:26:12    |
      From: me22over7@gmail.com              A perspective on OoL from Dr. Edward T. Peltzer. Quotes following are       interview excerpts.       _______              I did have many discussions with Miller and Bada on many subjects, but       the issues of pre-biotic chemistry and the origin of life were the most       common. Both were excellent chemists. You could ask them about almost       anything and they would have an answer or know where one could look to       find out. In some cases, I suspected they already knew, but wanted to       give me the experience of scouring the library to find out. One could       say that they taught me everything I new about prebiotic chemistry at       the time.              During his doctoral studies at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography       (SIO), he was mentored by two luminaries in prebiotic chemistry: Stanley       Miller, renowned for the Miller-Urey experiment simulating early Earth       conditions, and Jeffrey Bada, an expert in the field of amino acid       racemization and a prominent figure in the study of organic compounds in       meteorites.              As for the various individual [OoL] theories, here are a few of the       fatal errors. Hydrothermal vents do not make organic compounds, they       destroy them.              Surface based synthesis might yield a few useful compounds, but many       compounds with a diverse range of functionality are needed for the first       organism. RNA is too unstable outside a living cell to offer much hope       of it doing anything in the pre-biotic soup if somehow it was formed       (which is exceptionally unlikely).              My least favorite theory among all the options is the lipid world.       Assuming that one could get a collection of similar chain length fatty       acids bonded to glycerol to make triglycerides (which itself is highly       unlikely in the pre-biotic soup of randomly generated compounds), then       one could form an artificial vesicle (alternatively called a coacervate       or liposome) with a lipid bilayer film. What you then have is not much       more than a “soap bubble.” There is no interior metabolism, no       ion-transport pathways in the “membrane”; it is nothing more than a       film-coated droplet. How it would acquire an internal metabolism, etc.,       is anyone’s guess. But guesses, as entertaining as they might be, are       not a scientific explanation of how life arose abiotically.              Random undirected chemistry does not yield biopolymers. Organisms need       proteins, DNA &/or RNA, polysaccharides, etc. These polymers are uniform       in that they are composed of a monomeric class of compounds bound       together in very specific ways: proteins are chains of amino acids       linked by peptide bonds; DNA & RNA are chains of nucleotides linked by       phosphate bridges; polysaccharides (e.g., starch & cellulose) are chains       of glucose molecules linked by α-(1,4) glycosidic bonds in starch       (amylose) and β-(1,4) glycosidic bonds in cellulose. Random, undirected       chemical reactions do not yield these pure polymers. Instead, they yield       polymers formed by random condensations of whatever compounds are at       hand, producing high molecular weight compounds without a well-defined       structure. Examples of this are fulvic and humic acids, melanoids, etc.       Their structures are complex, involve monomers from a variety of       compound classes and without a common bonding pattern. As such, they       exhibit little to no biological activity and store no information.              The biggest challenge of all will be to convince the folks who dream up       the various theories for the origin of life to include the impact of       competing reactions on their pathways as opposed to writing “just so       stories.”              The origin of homochirality (D-sugars, L-amino acids, etc.) has proved       to be a difficult problem to solve. The goal needs to be chiral purity       otherwise just a single wrong isomer can completely foul the       functionality of the biopolymer (protein, DNA/RNA, etc.). Homochirality       is always up against racemization, the process by which chiral molecules       get mixed with their mirror images (enantiomers). Any such lack of       purity among chiral molecules is deadly to life. All three of the       proposed processes to achieve homochirality fail for such reasons.       First, they are slow and only achieve a partial enrichment of the       desired form. Second, racemization reactions work faster to undo this       enrichment. What little progress is made is quickly lost. Third, the       racemization rate increases with temperature. So, the condition needed       to speed-up other synthesis processes works against homochirality. The       source of homochirality remains an unsolved mystery.              Another problem for abiotic synthesis is that some amino acids have two       amino groups, and some have two carboxylic acid groups. This leads to       the possibility that the carboxlic acid group can bind with the wrong       amino group (or vice-versa) and thus branches can form in undirected       syntheses. None of the proteins in living systems have “branches” as       these would impair the proper folding of the proteins into the enzymatic       active forms.              Meanwhile, there are competing reactions that destroy the sugars. We       have already seen that the Maillard reaction of amino acids with sugars       yields a variety of melanoid products. And unless the environmental       conditions are just right and the pH gets too high, the Cannizzaro              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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