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   RonO to MarkE   
   Re: Student of Stanley Miller comments o   
   29 Aug 25 09:30:01   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   > follows directly from what we do know about the requirements for life   
   > and what we do know about chemistry, physics, thermodynamics, and   
   > biology. Turning this objection around, choosing to maintain a belief in   
   > abiogenesis despite the absence of a reasonable approach to the Stairway   
   > to Life is a “materialism-of-the-gaps” approach—i.e., “we don’t   
   know how   
   > life began, but we know that only natural processes were involved.”   
   >   
   >   
      
   All of this never mattered to the creationist gap denial stupidity.  It   
   was always assumed by the creationists that used the gaps that they   
   would never be filled.  Denton uses the Big Bang (#1 of the Top Six)   
   because that gap is likely never going to be filled.  The scientific   
   creationists even relied on the fact that they would never be filled   
   with some god because the god that filled those gaps was not the   
   Biblical god.  The gap denial has always been used by the scientific   
   creationists and ID perps as fire and forget science denial.  The   
   creationists rubes and the bogus perps are supposed to forget about the   
   gap in order to move on to the next subject of denial.  You know that   
   the scientific creationists never wanted to fill the gaps because the   
   Big Bang is one of the science topics that the YEC succeeded in removing   
   from the public school science standards in Kansas even though it was   
   gap denial used by the scientific creationists, and is still being used   
   in the AIG creation museum as science denial to keep fooling the rubes.   
      
   Meyer had the Top Six in his book The God Hypothesis, but he treated   
   them all as independent bits of denial and never tried to form a   
   coherent hypothesis out of all of them.  The reason for such a stupid   
   scam fool-the-rubes attempt is because the coherant hypothesis is not   
   Biblical.  The god that fills the Top Six gaps is not the god described   
   in the Bible.  The old earth creationists at Reason to Believe used to   
   be IDiots, and claimed that they were using the ID science to develop   
   their Biblical creation model, but it looks like they quit being IDiots   
   in 2018 (after the Top Six was put out) and now you would be hard   
   pressed to determine that they were once IDiots.  Just search   
   "intelligent design" and you no longer get their articles supporting the   
   ID scam.  At one time they had the claim that they supported intelligent   
   design, but did not support teaching it in the pubilc schools.  It may   
   have been part of their home page or their creation model page.   
      
   You refuse to state how you would deal with some god filling your origin   
   of life gap because you know that, that god is not the one that you want   
   to believe in.  The other IDiots quit the ID scam gap denial stupidity   
   because any valid ID science filling those gaps would just be more   
   science to deny.  The god that fills the Top Six gaps is not the god   
   described in the Bible.  You just refuse to face that reality, and just   
   use the gap denial to keep lying to yourself about reality.  You know   
   that you support the gap denial in order to support your religious   
   beliefs, so how can you ignore what filling that gap with some non   
   Biblical god would do to your Biblical beliefs.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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