From: specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net   
      
   On 8/29/25 5:41 PM, MarkE wrote:   
   > On 29/08/2025 1:53 am, Mark Isaak wrote:   
   >> On 8/23/25 6:06 AM, MarkE wrote:   
   >>> On 22/08/2025 11:19 pm, RonO wrote:   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> Ron, this post is not about the Bible or any particular   
   >>> interpretation of it. The interview cited is only science.   
   >>> Ironically, your bluster and misdirection serve to "deny the science".   
   >>   
   >> How do you reconcile your views with theism?  You're effectively   
   >> telling god what god can and cannot do.  In my view, that means   
   >> placing yourself above God, which demotes God to non-god status.   
   >>   
   >   
   > My approach is to avoid conflating science and theology. Therefore, I   
   > generally discuss the science only. My theological beliefs are not   
   > relevant to interpreting science.   
   >   
   > All the same, I'm happy to discuss my faith and have done so here. So to   
   > reiterate my approach:   
   >   
   > In my opinion, growing scientific understanding of the functional   
   > complexity of even minimal life is leading to deepening problems with   
   > abiogenesis. As a consequence, consideration of a supernatural   
   > explanation becomes increasingly warranted as a rational response to   
   > scientific evidence.   
   >   
   > It's not an either/or; it's not a suggestion to abandon science. Keep   
   > doing science, but don't rule out supernatural explanation. Moreover, do   
   > so with these in mind:   
   >   
   > - don't be too hasty to appeal to the supernatural -- that is the god-   
   > of-the-gaps error;   
   > - recognise the boundary of science, i.e. that science cannot, by   
   > definition, tell us anything about a hypothesised supernatural cause.   
   >   
   > Some will only consider natural explanations because science has no   
   > access to the supernatural, or an erroneous belief that science is the   
   > only possible source of knowledge. That's akin to a child putting their   
   > hands over their eyes and declaring you can't see them.   
      
   So when a natural explanation for abiogenesis is found, God goes poof?   
      
   --   
   Mark Isaak   
   "Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That   
   doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)