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   RonO to sticks   
   Re: Recalling Karl Crawford (2/2)   
   02 Sep 25 16:57:54   
   
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   time, that would make the system his type of IC.   
      
   This has pretty much destroyed IC as a scam topic for the anti-evolution   
   IDiots because Behe has noted examples of 2 neutral mutations occurring   
   that he claims is on the edge of evolution, but still expected to   
   routinely happen in a population of around 100 million.  These examples   
   demonstrate that there was an ancestral protein sequence that duplicated   
   and one copy had 2 neutral mutations occur that changed the function of   
   that protein.  This means that biological evolution is a fact of nature,   
   and however the designer does things he takes existing structures and   
   alters them a bit in order to get them to do something new.   
      
   When the Top Six was put out by the ID perps, some ID perps did not like   
   them.  Sewell dropped out IC and the Cambrian explosion, placed them out   
   of their original temporal order, and made two gaps out of fine tuning   
   and human evolution in order to keep it as the Top Six.  Seth Miller   
   dropped out the Big Bang from Sewell's list to make it the Top 5.  Seth   
   Miller is supposed to be a physicist, and that tells you what kind of   
   Biblical IDiotic creationists Miller is.  A lot of Biblical creationists   
   continue to want the universe created more recently to look like the Big   
   Bang happened over 13 billion years ago.   
      
   As I mentioned before most of the TO IDiotic creationist supporters of   
   the ID scam quit supporting the ID scam when the Top Six rubbed their   
   faces in the fact that they had never wanted the ID perps to accomplish   
   any valid ID science.  It would just be more science to deny.  MarkE   
   could not give up on the gap denial, and just started taking them as   
   independent events so that he could lie to himself about using them to   
   support his religious beliefs.  Just try to get MarkE to give you a   
   straightforward explanation of how filling the origin of life gap with a   
   non Biblical god would affect his Biblical religious beliefs that are   
   the reason for him continuing to wallow in the gap denial.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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